Loose seated figures in my 21" K-Line Bilevel cars. How difficult is it to take the bottom off and re-glue the figures?

Hmmm...I have some of those too. I haven't dealt with it yet.

The problem is because on the K-Line passenger cars they served adult beverages and on occasion a few of the patrons are over served and they fall out of their seat.  Disassembly of the car is required and a spot of super glue (gorilla glue for me) is needed to keep them in their seated. You may want to scratch up their back sides a bit with some sand paper to make the process work a little better. 

Cheers!

I added a lot additional passenger to my VRE Bilevel cars as soon as I got them. I do not remember it being difficult at all.

Scott Smith

Do you have to remove the car ends or just lower the floor to gain access to the interior?

It's been some time sense I had one of these cars apart but I believe you need to only remove one end of the car and slide the the works out (trucks, chassis and interior) in one piece. Hopefully someone else will chime in and confirm this or correct me on this. 

Thanks for this topic!  I bought a set of the CNW bi-levels also and there are passengers all over the place.  When I received them there were people stuck half out of the double doors.  Almost needed to call paramedics.. lol.

The screws that are on the bottom of each car don't seem to relate to the car ends. How do you remove the end of the car? Are there screws inside the rubber diaphragms?

Milt

Not easy.  Lot of screws. have to slide two levels of seating bypassing the lighting wiring harness.

the tracks in the aluminum extrusion are tight not  a lot of give so again not easy to slide.

Alan

The K-Line bi-level cars I have seen came with an insert that described how to take off one set of the end caps in order to change any lights bulbs inside that went out. There were usually two screws through the frame into the end cap and removing them would allow it to be pulled off. The screws were at each side of the cap and were visible on the underside of the frame.

I believe that the lower plastic floor was fixed to the frame and the whole assembly, floor and metal frame, was meant to slide out. That means you have to take off the other end cap to free it up to move. I don’t recall any other screws holding the metal frame to the body; the sides of it are fitted in a U or C shaped channel in the body of the car itself.

However, the underbody detail mounted to the frame might have to be removed to get it to slide past any skirts that the car body has. For the same reason you might have to detach the trucks  from the frame so that they do not catch on the body. You do have to watch out for any lighting wiring that might be fixed to the frame.

As an alternative - but not one that I have tried - the plastic floor on which the passenger seats are mounted is fixed to the metal frame by several (probably 6-8) small screws. You might have to take off the underbody detail to find all of them. These can be taken out and the plastic assembly will then be separate from the frame and most likely will slide out one end of the car.

I’ve never tried removing the upper floor of one of these models so can’t help on that as I don’t recall what I discovered about exactly how they are installed. Once you get inside the car it should be clear how they are fixed in place.

I have just finished redoing the interiors of a set of K Line El Capitan 20" bilevels.  lt takes a sequence of operations to remove the interiors but can be done.  

Here is the sequence:  1. remove the screws holding each end on and pull the end off; 2. there is a small screw holding each truck on, remove it and slip off the truck and its plate. 3. you will now see two wire harnesses, one to the truck and one to tne end for the red end lights 4. unplug both sets of wires 5. pull out the loose wire to the trucks and set them aside 6. pull the wire to the end pieces out but they will still be connected to the bulb board that runs through the car. 7. now you can carefully slide the entire interior out along the groves in the outer shell.  

To reassemble, reverse the order!

I found the people held to their seats with huge globs of something like hot glue.  I took all of them off and reglued them on with superglue as well as repainting them - mine had only four "styles" of figures, all painted the same.  And I added many more seated figures from WeHonest since my trains are much better patronized than K Line's.

My RR would go broke if I just kept the factory load of passengers, a dozen paying patrons in an 80 seat car just won't pay to keep operations going.

Actually, when I disassembled the cars and painted the seats, my wife looked at them and said "that looks like the interior of a bus!"  She was right, I looked up the floor plan of the bilevel cars and there were twice the number of seats as there should be.  So, I ended up cutting all of them apart and making a new floor and interior for every car in the set.  She is more pleased now!

PETERA - thanks. Now I can try, using your sequence ,to put the ones I took apart.... back together!

but I wont be cutting them apart... these are old K-Lines.