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I picked up a couple of transformers to power my layout.  I think I will be able to run some VERY long trains.

BIG Transformers 121101 004

BIG Transformers 121101 002

BIG Transformers 121101 003

 

Yes, that is 120 pounds showing on the bathroom scale.  These units were in a 5KVA UPS that someone scrapped.  (The wheelbarrow is for transporting them.)  I figured they were probably at least 50% copper wire, and 120# of copper is worth quite a bit these days.

 

Or maybe I should try them in place of a Lionel brick.....

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Or maybe ZW-G for Gigantic.  Great for running trains and arc welding - simultaneously!

These transformers have 208/240V inputs.  I am going to hook one up to 120V and see what voltage I can get out by series connecting the secondaries. 

 

I may need to use a Variac to start it up.  If I abruptly slap that coil across the AC line, I will probably trip the breaker. 

 

I already have that surge problem with a power supply I built out of a pair of 20 amp Variacs in parallel to give me 0-100V DC at up to 40 amps.  This supply was built for an electroplating project in Chemistry class when I was in college many years ago.  I used 160 amp diodes.  I guess I could use that supply on my G-gauge garden railroad to run a bunch of trains very fast....

Test results:

I was able to find the 208/240V leads.  I applied 120V to the 208 tap.

 

The other two (identical) windings give me "off-center tapped" windings with 49.8V on one half and 18.6V on the other half.  The 18.6V would be pretty good for running trains.

 

How much current is available?  I don't know, but the wires are #8AWG, and there are two coils available.  I would guess at least 60-80 amps, and I wouldn't expect much voltage sag under load.  This device was originally intended for 208/240V operation, which means when I use it for 120V operation I have more copper in the circuit than is necessary, but my guess is that the copper is so big that it wouldn't be much of a penalty for this application.

 

The core magnetizing (no-load idling) current draws only 15VA and 9 watts.  The toroidal core is very efficient.  In comparison, a Lionel 180 watt brick draws 36VA and 4 watts idling.

 

Actually, I wouldn't want to try this on a layout.  The instantaneous current during a derail, before the circuit breaker or fuse can act, would be sky high, welding everything in sight!

Originally Posted by Dale Manquen:
Actually, I wouldn't want to try this on a layout.  The instantaneous current during a derail, before the circuit breaker or fuse can act, would be sky high, welding everything in sight!

I was hoping you would say that!

 

This thing would be VERY dangerous to use on a train layout. As long as everything was on the track and running properly, things would be fine. But during a derailment this thing could supply enough current through a shorted circuit to melt everything between it and the shorted circuit.

 

Can you imagine what 60+ amps through a 14 gauge wire would do? The wire would glow like a light bulb filament, and then the insulation would catch fire and melt.

 

No thanks.

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