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N&W 684 - 1

When Lionel announced the Legacy Consolidations, Steve at Mr Muffin's trains took suggestions for custom runs and received a flurry of ideas. Unfortunately, not all the ideas made it to production, but enough interest was triggered for him to order seval undecorated models which he would send to Harry Heike for decaling and weathering. I and a handful of others had asked for a Norfolk & Western Consolidation.

Unfortunately, the N&W does not receive much interest in 3RO outside of the "Big 3". Smaller steam engines that served on the N&W often either are rarely produced and notoriously hard to find on the secondary market (eg, a 3rd Rail 4-8-0!), or don't make it into production at all. The N&W is one of the road names I collect, so with this predicament, a custom run 2-8-0 in N&W - to model the N&W's class W2 - was a natural choice for me.

When doing some research on the prototype, I found most were significantly different from the Lionel model. I do not remember most of the issues, but a key one that stuck out like a sore thumb was that the headlamp was mounted near the top of the smoke box on the prototype, while the Lionel model had it mounted in the center of the smokebox. However, while pouring over the NWHS photo collection, I did find a couple of N&W 2-8-0s with a centered headlight. One of these was N&W #684. Out of the handful of prototype photos I looked at, I decided the Lionel model could mostly closely resemble the #684. One picture of the 684 can be found on the NWHS archive here.

Harry did a great job bringing the prototype to life with the decals and weathering, as seen in the photos below.

N&W 684 - 2N&W 684 - 3N&W 684 - 4

Unfortunately I do not have a layout, so back in the box she'll go, but I had to at least take it out for a look

Thank you Steve and Harry for making this possible!

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Harry does great work and I feel your pain waiting for engines to be produced in certain roads which may or may not ever get made.  Instead we get more Big Boy, Challengers, and Hudsons.   Instead of waiting for engines to be made in Rutland, I had Harry re-letter a few of my engines to Rutland.  Now I'm all set.  Modify engines cosmetically and really the only way to get what you want.  Part of the hobby I guess.

I forgot, credit goes to @N&WGuy for reaching out to Steve about a custom run in the first place! I may not have thought to order an N&W custom run if he hadn't gotten the ball rolling in the first place!

@MichRR714 posted:

Very nice locomotive.   That's a unique piece for sure.

Unique indeed!

Looks terrific. Great job from research to execution.

@SGP posted:

Looks like a great but not perfect representation of #684. Congrats on a great model! I wish we could see more N&W 2-8-0 locomotives.

Thank you! I wish we could see more prototypically-correct N&W steam in general. I will be the first to admit that it is not a a perfect representation of the prototype, but I think it is passible using the 3 foot rule I remember when doing the research that some class W2's with centered headlights had the air pumps in different positions and other variations, so I like to think that this model represents an engine that may have rode the rails on the N&W at some point or another. Can't do anything about the boiler shape, but then again that's what the 3 foot rule is for.

@superwarp1 posted:

Harry does great work and I feel your pain waiting for engines to be produced in certain roads which may or may not ever get made.  Instead we get more Big Boy, Challengers, and Hudsons.   Instead of waiting for engines to be made in Rutland, I had Harry re-letter a few of my engines to Rutland.  Now I'm all set.  Modify engines cosmetically and really the only way to get what you want.  Part of the hobby I guess.

I fully plan to use this strategy - I am keeping an eye on the secondary market for a USRA Light Mountain at a good price. The N&W used Heavy Mountains for their K2 class (pre-streamlining), so I am hoping to get a Light Mountain and re-letter/number for N&W as a stand-in for one of their Heavy Mountains. I have been filtering out the Western Pacific 4-8-2s because they have an oil tender, but I just realized as I type this that the type of tender might actually not matter because I think all the K2s had Y3-style tenders. I'll have to check the photo archives again.

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@0-Gauge CJ posted:


I fully plan to use this strategy - I am keeping an eye on the secondary market for a USRA Light Mountain at a good price. The N&W used Heavy Mountains for their K2 class (pre-streamlining), so I am hoping to get a Light Mountain and re-letter/number for N&W as a stand-in for one of their Heavy Mountains. I have been filtering out the Western Pacific 4-8-2s because they have an oil tender, but I just realized as I type this that the type of tender might actually not matter because I think all the K2s had Y3-style tenders. I'll have to check the photo archives again.

The true master at this is @Dave_C.  He’s got OCD when it comes to Rutland.  LOL

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