MTH Pennsy S1 Passenger Set Review

Watched it earlier this morning. Excellent review as usual.

Another great review Eric, I don't think anyone does them better. Thanks for keeping them coming, and I am looking forward for the Lionel SP.

Great Demo as always Eric!..................

Nice! Maybe it's just me, but doesn't the front end look like a "J" when he goes to point out detail on the front end?

Hi Eric,

 

Thanks for a great review, it's a very nice set and i like the sound set

 

Alex

As always, Great review and a little history to go with the S1

Thanks Eric!!

Enjoyable, as always; glad that you do these reviews.

One of my favorite locos; I have the 3rd Rail version, roller-tested. Would like to ERR-it,

one day - and I say that a lot. It cost as much as the MTH loco and set some years ago.

I wish that I had the Lionel (or MTH) loco instead. But, 3rd Rail offered them first...

I Lionel ever offers the Pilot model, I'm getting it.

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The cars are striking and well-done, as per MTH usual RS. I have a set or two of these

sets (NYC, GM&O, CNW) from various eras. BUT: it's just a shame that MTH (and others)

have never addressed the Olympic Leap between these cars, at least for those of us with larger curves. All that end-detail, then a big gap anyway...really kills the look, especially noticeable in this video.

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Another reason I avoid cab-chatter: this train arrived in "Leema" Ohio. These is no

such place. It is "Ly-ma" Ohio (as in one of the Big Three steam builders), and is

not in Peru. It is pronounced like the "lima" bean. (I even know a guy from there - Lima, Ohio, not the bean.)

 

The MTH Chatter Supervisor should know better.

 

 

A great video!  I'll never own one of these (waaaaaaay too big for my layout), but it was great getting the guided tour of yours.  Thanks.

 I really like the horn sound. Is the alternate horn an air horn? (diesel type)

 

Haha, I noticed that right away, too.

 

 

True but my guess is that, historically speaking, the city was probably meant to be "Lee-ma" and then the pronunciation got butchered by us Americans into "Lime-a" over the years. Just a guess.

 

I live in Georgia, and odd pronunciations of towns and streets is rampant. The classic example is Atlanta's Ponce De Leon Avenue. There are two ways to pronounce that street name...the correct way and then Atlanta way...and you can always tell if someone is a transplant or was actually raised here by how they pronounce it. Anyone raised here pronounces it "Ponce-DUH-LEE-on"...which is completely butchering it...but hey that's how the locals pronounce it for better or worse. 

 

I guess my point is...it's not that big of deal and I'll cut MTH a break on this one. I myself used to pronounce Lima the same way until someone corrected me. On paper, it should be pronounced "Lee-ma" and only a Ohio native would know otherwise.

 

-Eric Siegel

Yes Eric great review as usual. Alex; I think the sounds are OK but I can't help to think what it would sound like with Legacy Railsounds!?   

Once again another great review Eric....the best in video reviews!!

 

Alan

Hey...like the guy said above....fantastic review!

 

Alan

Eric,

You convinced me that this is the ultimate passenger steam engine to get. It could be my "Big Boy" since I collect passenger trains. . My best feature is the uniqueness of this massive engine. 

Anyone measure how much overhang (distance beyond the outside rail) there is on a 72" or 80" curve?

Thanks Eric for another wonderful review.

Another dreat video review Eric. That's a feally beautiful set! Sounds are great. Especially enjoyed the fast runby. As a small child I faintly remember seeing the S1 and other locos at the 1939 NY Worlds Fair. Quiet a sight for young eyes!

Let me add my appreciation of this terrific review of an impressive MTH locomotive. That said, I’d like to know if anyone else has noticed that the headlight and class lights appear to flash in concert with the exhaust puffs from the smoke unit.  This is noticeable immediately on startup (@18:12), at various later times while the engine is both stationary and running, and again around the time of shut down (@27:48).

 

I ask because I have a recently acquired MTH 20-3482-1e Proto 2 streamlined K4s that behaves the same way, only with more intensity to the flashing. The headlight, class lights, cab light, and firebox light all flash to match the pulsing of the smoke unit. Everything else works as advertised.

 

If anyone has an idea as to what is causing this in either engine or how to fix it, I’d really like to know. I don't want to hijack this thread, so if you have any thoughts you want to pass on, please send them to -

 

smokelifter@yahoo.com

 

Thanks for your consideration.

 

Crank

Crank,

The flashing is only due to the fact that the lights are LED and the refresh rate doesn't match the video frame rate...so on video it gives the appearance of flashing even though in person it's not. In short, it's a bit of an optical illusion caused by the combination of LED light and the camera...not unlike if you've ever seen someone using a CRT computer monitor on a tv show or how the wheels of a car can seem to spin backwards under certain lighting/video conditions. Same thing.

When viewing the engine in person, there's no flashing.


-Eric Siegel

Thanks very much for your reply, Eric, and for the explanation of what I see in your video. My problem, unfortunately, doesn't come down to an optical illusion, so I'll just have to look elsewhere for a solution, perhaps on the DCS/PS board.

 

Crank