Need help in finding an eccentric crank for the PWC 773 (Part 6308096046)

If there ever was a place for locating eccentric cranks, it's the Forum!

I looked at my pwc 773 and compared it to other Hudson's I have and that crank looks the same as the ones on the lti era Hudson's and even the original 773 looks the same. Lionel didn't change their Hudson's to much over the years. Part number 700e-241 olsen's or other parts places or even eBay should be easy to find n don't forget you'll need a new rivet also. 

Ouch

Have to ask --- what happened ?

"crash" or just broke

Have the set and love it

Good luck and Thx

Joe S

While my back was turned,a "guest" decided to let his kid pick it up off the shelf and the kid just dropped it......it fell flat on it's side.  The sad thing is I had just put it up to display a few days before after giving it a hour test run,it's a sweet runner! It had been in it's box since 2005 and never ever displayed or run. This is a prime example why I don't like non-train guests in my train room.

The crank appear to be different than the earlier 773's. It looks along the line of the 700E/763E crank. 

This crank does not use a rivet,the it uses a small hex head fastener to hold the rod to the crank.

Yes the pwc has a screw the old school uses a rivet that can never work loose. I dug out an eccentric crank outta my parts bin #700e-241 to compare it with the pwc one and the only difference is that the pwc is threaded for a screw the old school one will work and look exactly the same but you will have to rivet it which is cake to do. Here's some pics

Also FYI while your working on it check the Phillips head screws holding on the drivers they can work loose and they also aren't available from lionel so keep them snugged up unless you wanna be crawling around your layout and around your layout like you're looking for a contact lense finding the screw........not saying that happened to me lol 

I was curious, so I checked the parts dealers that I have bookmarked. None of them have the part. I guess I'd look for the correct crank for a bit longer, and if it is unavailable, I'd replace the cranks on both sides with the 700E-241 crank and rivets.

It was very kind of GIT R Done 15541 to do the comparison.

Just wondering how long ago this engine was released.

Figure out the thread size and tap the crank for the thread size and screw in the bolt.   G

The photo of the two pieces side x side in GRD's hand gives you the answer. You can drill and tap the original 700e-241.

Dr. Tinker Trains has the part  #700e-241

The Lionel parts listing shows the hex screw as metric 2mm shoulder

here's a drill and tap guide for 2mm x 4thd

So, a pin vise, and metric drill and tap and you can make your own.

MicroMark pin vise, #52 tap drill, and the clearance drill 1.6mm

email or call Chuck Sartor at 'O'nly 3 rail. He may have the part or a 700e-241 original to work with.

http://only3rail.com/

I have in stock the 700E-241 crank and matching 610-8045-053 eccentric rod screw. The 630-8096-046 crank and 700E-241 are the same part, but the 8096-046 is tapped for the metric thread eccentric rod screw. 

Or I can tap a 700E-241 crank for a 2mm thread for you.

Hi Fella's

I googled this part and this thread came up! The above part just broke, the engine was running and it just snapped. So I am looking for this part as well.  I do not know Chuck Sartor, but if anyone can help me that would be great. I am going to temporarily try to glue it, or just remove it all together. Thanks in advance.

Usually they can be tapped for a 2-56 screw and then held in place with clear fingernail polish on the threads.

Whenever I mention using clear fingernail polish, someone always  chimes in with "Loctite!" but in my experience Loctite is too powerful for threads this small. Fingernail polish works perfectly for this kind of a job and is easily found in drug stores.

It's my opinion, but I value it highly.

Give Jeff at The train Tender a call 585-229-2050  I am sure he can help you.

As far as Loctite goes, I use the purple one on this screw. have to wash out the screw hole with acetone , use heat gun to remove the solvent and clean the screw then put a drop on the threads. Leave the screw alone for about 2 hours. One note most eccentric go on one way while the locktite is drying carefully rotate the wheels to make sure the eccentric is in the right position, may have to rotate 180 degrees to get the  driving rods in the right position in relation ship to the other side quartering.

I just spoke with Jeff, while he does not have the exact part he is sending me 2 of the 700E parts and Ill try to work with them. I am not familiar with the fingernail polish idea, I will try anything. Im also going to call Chuck Sartor tommorrow.