Hi,
I recently bought 2431540 Lionel Pere Marquette legacy o scale and I bought a Lionel legacy Railsounds polar express tender 6-11151. My question is will my new Pere Berkshire run with my polar express tender attached?
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Someone told me the IR sensor may be an issue because on this tender it’s on the bottom while some Berkshires have the IR sensor on top. Does anyone know more info about this?
Mixing and matching new and old is highly likely to result in a conflict.
Yes- a 2024 catalog engine with a product number of 2431540 is not going to work with a legacy tender with completely different series of electronics and drawbar from 6-11151
The tender likely fails to see the IR signal- let alone understand it, so it then starts sounds in conventional and only works with transformer controls.
I know- I just bought this tender myself- but instead to use with the engine it was intended for 6-11146
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@Vernon Barry posted:Mixing and matching new and old is highly likely to result in a conflict.
Yes- a 2024 catalog engine with a product number of 2431540 is not going to work with a legacy tender with completely different series of electronics and drawbar from 6-11151
The tender likely fails to see the IR signal- let alone understand it, so it then starts sounds in conventional and only works with transformer controls.
I know- I just bought this tender myself- but instead to use with the engine it was intended for 6-11146
Do the sounds the the tender makes while it thinks it’s in conventional sound normal or does it sound wacky if so I may be able to deal with the sounds and run in legacy mode
Again, in the what won't work column with this combination:
Chuff sounds won't work because that signal comes from the engine over the mismatch IR drawbar (not just over and under TX and RX- but actual data being sent also doesn't match).
Just as a data point, I just tried this with a newer EM-1 Legacy with the same new style above the drawbar transmitter and the older Polar tender even with a gap such that the tender should be seeing the IR signal but because it's not the right data- still starts in conventional. It's simply incompatible.
No triggering of any sound from the TMCC or Legacy remote
Bell and whistle are again, under conventional control from the transformer via transformer bell and whistle commands.
No firing of the coupler
No reverse light control on the tender.
You can drag the tender behind the engine and it might make background steam sounds, and you can blow the whistle or activate bell via transformer, but that is all just the tender making bare minimum sounds in conventional mode.
@Diego posted:Do the sounds the the tender makes while it thinks it’s in conventional sound normal or does it sound wacky if so I may be able to deal with the sounds and run in legacy mode
Video showing the physical drawbar mismatch, but also the background sounds when the tender starts up.
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@Vernon Barry posted:Video showing the physical drawbar mismatch, but also the background sounds when the tender starts up.
When you couple them both together how bad is that height difference will it lift up one of the wheels?
@Diego posted:When you couple them both together how bad is that height difference will it lift up one of the wheels?
No, the drawbar is not that far off and typically there is a fair amount of give to the system with the springs. It can be coupled physically from what I can see without issue.
Again, this is nothing to get excited about for height difference.
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