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Not to sound disrespectfu, but only God and the best president to ever run Espee, A.D. McDonald, considered the 4449 and rest of the fleet to be painted in the famous Daylight scheme, Period!

No Red, White & Blue, not black, and for heaven's sake...Never Never BNSF!  Gads, what a chilling thought?

Sort of like the PINK GG1 Williams produced many years ago...

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And now the 'Warbonnet' Santa Fe Acela  in the new L catalog...

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...which is why I find myself often running...not walking/sauntering...over to Scott Mann's 3rd Rail website for a refreshing view of sanity/dignity after seeing these... ...of the imagination.  (Mom said 'Say something nice or nothing at all!')

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This coffee needs something more this morning!...  Where's the Bailey's???

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Not to sound disrespectfu, but only God and the best president to ever run Espee, A.D. McDonald, considered the 4449 and rest of the fleet to be painted in the famous Daylight scheme, Period!

No Red, White & Blue, not black, and for heaven's sake...Never Never BNSF!  Gads, what a chilling thought?

Southern Pacific, under Mr. McDonald, was truly Espee's Finest Hour!

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,that's just your OPINION!  As a member of the crew on 4449, since the summer of 1975, the poor locomotive would STILL be rusting away in Oaks Park, Portland, OR, if it had not been for the American Freedom Train. Personally, I don't care WHAT COLOR 4449 is painted, so long as she continues to operate. We all experienced some fantastic times with 4449, whether in red, white & blue, or red, black & orange, or gloss black (for BN), and to be honest, from my vantage point in the cab, I really didn't care WHAT COLOR she was painted!

@dkdkrd posted:

Sort of like the PINK GG1 Williams produced many years ago...

And now the 'Warbonnet' Santa Fe Acela  in the new L catalog...

...which is why I find myself often running...not walking/sauntering...over to Scott Mann's 3rd Rail website for a refreshing view of sanity/dignity after seeing these... ...of the imagination.  (Mom said 'Say something nice or nothing at all!').

This coffee needs something more this morning!...  Where's the Bailey's???

I just added the Warbonnet Acela to my list from the catalog.  One, I think it's cool, and two, because it irrationally makes people angry that it's being offered

Others I have:

Daylight Cab Forward, Black Bonnet SF pulling SuperChief pax cars, and a modern version Girls Train.

@Genoz posted:

The previous video I found out by holding the aux 1 button on Cab 2 all the smoke bells and whistles were started with the motion. Having lots of fun discovering functions!

I don’t think that the manuals for these VL versions are posted online yet but you might want to check yours about switching on the light functions. In the first video the Mars (upper) headlight is off and in the second video it does not seem to be flashing. That’s not prototypical or what you get from similarly equipped Lionel steamers.

@Hancock52 posted:

I don’t think that the manuals for these VL versions are posted online yet but you might want to check yours about switching on the light functions. In the first video the Mars (upper) headlight is off and in the second video it does not seem to be flashing. That’s not prototypical or what you get from similarly equipped Lionel steamers.

Vision GS Manual

Pushing and holding the AUX2 button will bring up the lighting menu.  The Mars light On/Off is indicated by a half shaded circle in the 4 and 7 position of the keypad.

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@Hancock52 posted:

Thanks, I have found it. Lighting features are on p. 16 but there’s no specific text about the Mars Light. Offhand I can’t remember which of the Aux2 menu CAB2 buttons relates to it.

See my edit of my previous post.  Lionel should include this in the section that deals with the marker lights.  The only thing that concerns me is a forum member got a PRR Trainmaster that was supposed to have a Mars light and it didn't operate that way. Not sure if he ever good resolution.

@MartyE posted:

See my edit of my previous post.  Lionel should include this in the section that deals with the marker lights.  The only thing that concerns me is a forum member got a PRR Trainmaster that was supposed to have a Mars light and it didn't operate that way. Not sure if he ever good resolution.

Thanks for this Marty, and I remember the PRR model issue. This is something Lionel has messed up before but you don't expect that on a VL model. I do wonder whether there is some double-tap control of the Mars button by which you can toggle the light between constantly on and flashing but in any case it should flash.

@Hancock52 posted:

Thanks for this Marty, and I remember the PRR model issue. This is something Lionel has messed up before but you don't expect that on a VL model. I do wonder whether there is some double-tap control of the Mars button by which you can toggle the light between constantly on and flashing but in any case it should flash.

That is the unknown right now without a better explanation in the manual.  Maybe @Dave Olson can help explain how this is working for the new VL.  Maybe it is a 3 state setting. Off / On / Mars.  I must admit I only have 1 engine with a MARS light and it's been a while since I had it out to remember what the operation of it is.

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@GG1 4877 posted:

If fantasy schemes sell, I don't see the issue with them.  Maybe not my taste, but what does my opinion matter on someone else's layout?



Jonathan I agree 100%.  I may not care for it, I can certainly voice my opinion, but in the end it's up to the folks buying them.  It's their railroad they are entitled to spend their money and operate their layout as they see fit.

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