I'd rather support a local dealer and get a discount off MSRP.
We don’t have a local dealer here and I’m too old for LA traffic!
@Genoz posted:We don’t have a local dealer here and I’m too old for LA traffic!
Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Enjoy your locomotive. Have you tried to change the MARS light operation using the CAB2 yet? In your first video it was off and the second it was on but not oscillating at least from what we could tell from the video. Does it oscillate?
Aren't all of our layouts Fantasy?
Jim
I moved and no longer have a true local hobby shop, but I still order through Legacy Station. Brian is a great guy and even with shipping, it's still going to end up less than MSRP.
Did we get any update on the MARS light being operational? Would like to see it "oscillate".
@MartyE posted:Did we get any update on the MARS light being operational? Would like to see it "oscillate".
I'd very much like to know this too. So, just a nudge in the direction of @Dave Olson, who has been so helpful on the Veranda Turbine features, in case he can enlighten us in this respect as well.
Definitely looking forward to getting mine. The only thing I wish that was different is the whistle. Was hoping the whistle was going to be more accurate considering it’s a Visionline.
@Isaac Schuster posted:Definitely looking forward to getting mine. The only thing I wish that was different is the whistle. Was hoping the whistle was going to be more accurate considering it’s a Visionline.
OK, what is not accurate about the whistle?
4449 14 years ago:
MTH PS3 GS Class whistle:
@Isaac Schuster posted:Definitely looking forward to getting mine. The only thing I wish that was different is the whistle. Was hoping the whistle was going to be more accurate considering it’s a Visionline.
You do know that there a 5 different whistles available within the locomotive. I would suspect one of them hits the mark from some of the videos I've seen.
I believe there is actually only 3 whistles. The other two are horns. At least that’s what Dave Olsen at least showed us during the demo. I should have been more specific when I said accurate. The quill range on it is very limited for this whistle. It doesn’t allow real depth like the real thing is capable of. The video I’m posting shows the range of the 4449 whistle.
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The "correct" SP 4449 whistle could be thought of as rather a contradiction in terms, considering how many whistles she has carried through the years. I'm not certain what type of whistle she carried while in service for the SP (think I saw somewhere that it was a Hancock 3-chime), although I know the air horn has been there since the beginning. I'm certain there are others here who could answer this.
Further, it should be noted that how a particular whistle sounds will change with age, steam pressure, humidity, temperature and more. Also, if you watch a video of a particular train passing, remember the doppler effect will make the whistle sound higher-pitched than it actually is. To me, of the two whistles I know for sure that this Vision model will have, one to my ear can pass for an SP 6-chime and the other for a "steamboat" style whistle (the same one as on the old Legacy 4436 release). With these two and the air horn, I'm completely satisfied. I mean, it could have been a hooter whistle knowing Lionel.
For excursion service, just listen to the variety in this video:
@Isaac Schuster posted:I believe there is actually only 3 whistles. The other two are horns. At least that’s what Dave Olsen at least showed us during the demo. I should have been more specific when I said accurate. The quill range on it is very limited for this whistle. It doesn’t allow real depth like the real thing is capable of. The video I’m posting shows the range of the 4449 whistle.
I think you're correct 3 whistles, 2 horns.
@Hancock52 posted:I'd very much like to know this too. So, just a nudge in the direction of @Dave Olson, who has been so helpful on the Veranda Turbine features, in case he can enlighten us in this respect as well.
Here's my engine from the freight set. I really like the look of the solid color pilot
Yes, the MARS is functional. It turns off with the engine in reverse. On video the "oscillating" nature of the light looks twitchy. Even looks like the light turns off. Must have something to do with shutter. In person, it's very smooth and natural.
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Uh oh, did I just commit the sin of posting a video done in portrait mode?
I'm clearly not a great camera person.
@Dave Olson posted:Uh oh, did I just commit the sin of posting a video done in portrait mode?
I'm clearly not a great camera person.
As far as I am concerned you are forgiven - but apply to Marty for absolution. Thanks for the Mars Light info, much appreciated.
Does anyone else have pictures or videos of the regular daylight scheme or GS-1s?
Just got a call from my LHS. My Visionline GS-5 and passenger cars are in!
Field trip tomorrow to the Hobby Shop. 
@Will Ebbert posted:Does anyone else have pictures or videos of the regular daylight scheme or GS-1s?
Are you asking about prototype information, or model information? Also, what do you mean by the "regular daylight scheme"? Are you aware that in 1946, the SP changed from the "Southern Pacific Lines" scheme to the large "SOUTHERN PACIFIC" scheme?
@Dave Olson I ordered the Daylight 4449 but man that war baby looks tempting as heck
@Hot Water posted:Are you asking about prototype information, or model information? Also, what do you mean by the "regular daylight scheme"? Are you aware that in 1946, the SP changed from the "Southern Pacific Lines" scheme to the large "SOUTHERN PACIFIC" scheme?
No I'm asking for pictures of the models. I mean the red, orange, and black scheme. Yes I am aware of the name change. I ordered the Southern Pacific Lines version as well as reserving 11 cars from GGD to match.
@Will Ebbert posted:No I'm asking for pictures of the models. I mean the red, orange, and black scheme. Yes I am aware of the name change. I ordered the Southern Pacific Lines version as well as reserving 11 cars from GGD to match.
OK, that's good. Now, I was not aware that Golden Gate Depot was re-running the scale SP Daylight passenger car sets, let alone in the "Southern Pacific Lines" lettering. Back when I was into 3RS modeling, I had the full Golden Gate Depot Daylight passenger car set, including the articulated dinner and various articulated chair cars in the "SOUTHERN PCIFIC" lettering, pulled by the Sunset/3rd Rail black GS-4, with skirts removed. Their Daylight passenger cars are truly spectacular!
@Hot Water posted:OK, that's good. Now, I was not aware that Golden Gate Depot was re-running the scale SP Daylight passenger car sets, let alone in the "Southern Pacific Lines" lettering. Back when I was into 3RS modeling, I had the full Golden Gate Depot Daylight passenger car set, including the articulated dinner and various articulated chair cars in the "SOUTHERN PCIFIC" lettering, pulled by the Sunset/3rd Rail black GS-4, with skirts removed. Their Daylight passenger cars are truly spectacular!
Honestly GGD offering that set is the only reason I bought the GS-4. I didn't want to settle for inaccurate cars, so I'm excited for correct extrusions. My 11 car consist probably won't be perfect, but pretty close nevertheless.
@Dave Olson posted:Uh oh, did I just commit the sin of posting a video done in portrait mode?
I'm clearly not a great camera person.
A mere five second video is worse than portrait mode!
@Dave Olson posted:Uh oh, did I just commit the sin of posting a video done in portrait mode?
I'm clearly not a great camera person.
Say 3 "Our Rich's" and 4 "Hail Scailrails" and then watch Avengers Endgame on your phone in portrait mode.
I would be interested in seeing more videos of all the smoke features from anyone who has one of the new GS-series.
@BC1989 posted:I would be interested in seeing more videos of all the smoke features from anyone who has one of the new GS-series.
Well, so would I, but I am also interested in knowing which of these models has actually been delivered. At present, there have been no sightings of any of the Daylight models, as far as I know, and mine (a GS5) is one of them. My dealer is unusually silent. 
@Hancock52 - I picked up my GS-5 a couple of days ago from my LHS. (Atlanta).
So how does the GS5 run? Can we see how the new smoke features perform? Sounds like it would be an awesome locomotive!
@MartyE posted:Say 3 "Our Rich's" and 4 "Hail Scailrails" and then watch Avengers Endgame on your phone in portrait mode.
I am glad my old Irish Priest is not as tough as you. One "Our Father" covers most any transgression.
@ScottV posted:@Hancock52 - I picked up my GS-5 a couple of days ago from my LHS. (Atlanta).
Thank you very much - and I hope it runs right!
Actually, if it is a Daylight, I’d be interested in seeing a photo. As usual, there are questions in people’s minds about Lionel’s latest rendition of Daylight colors.
@Will Ebbert posted:I'd rather support a local dealer and get a discount off MSRP.
My local dealer doesn't carry anything in stock that is scale and or recent. I order a decent amount straight from Lionel because you can usually find 10% promo codes if you look hard enough. I have started preordering things from my dealer but I am glad it is my choice either way.
just fyi ... Eric Siegel (Erics Trains) posted a youtube video of him picking up his Daylight (among others). The video has better lighting than my train room for color reference. The daylight version is shown starting at about the 13:00 minute mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...LYBeawmA&t=1056s
@ScottV posted:just fyi ... Eric Siegel (Erics Trains) posted a youtube video of him picking up his Daylight (among others). The video has better lighting than my train room for color reference. The daylight version is shown starting at about the 13:00 minute mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...LYBeawmA&t=1056s
Thank you - I have seen that now.
I'd love to see some of the black GS-1 locomotives. Let me know when they arrive. I may consider getting 4470 & 4449 down the road.
I don’t think the Mars lights oscillates, if it does I don’t know how to make it go. Aux 2 turns it off and on but this is my first new train since 1969 lol
@Genoz posted:I don’t think the Mars lights oscillates, if it does I don’t know how to make it go. Aux 2 turns it off and on but this is my first new train since 1969 lol
Press and holding AUX2 button will bring up the lighting menu where the numerical keypad is. Once displayed you can release AUX2. The Mars light On/Off is indicated by a half shaded circle in the 4 and 7 position of the keypad.
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MartyE - Once again you come through with a helpful illustration - presumably from the Owner's Manual for that engine or one like it? 
@PH1975 posted:MartyE - Once again you come through with a helpful illustration - presumably from the Owner's Manual for that engine or one like it?
1.6 Legacy Manual. Unfortunately this info is not in the engine manual but should be.
