Now comes the F3 from 3rd Rail

We still do not know if the Grand Trunk Western will be in the 1960's scheme.

Atlas O announced the GTW 1940's and 1950's scheme and will have it produced someday. 

Both companies can not do the same scheme so close together after all these years. We can only buy so many GTW F3 units before the paint schemes and numbers overlap. 

Andrew

I emailed Atlas on the GTW F3 paint scheme and they said it would be the Green/Yellow as per the second paint scheme.Were as the delivered version was Green/Gold

My guess is that The Canadian National and the Grand Trunk Western F3 A units will both be in the 1960's scheme. This will make the locomotives easier to mask. Change the nose logo from CN to GT and the number fonts are the same. 

Is that the plan? 

Andrew

Santa Fe blue freight F3's will have to be Phase IV, as ATSF only had two 4-unit locomotives,  200L-A-B-C and 201 L-A-B-C, both of which were built in late 1948 and had GE fabricated grilles.

I'm still waiting for 3rd Rail to tell us what phase they will be doing.

Why is the GTW Grand Trunk Western F3 A-unit the only one with NO artwork? 

Andrew

Scott Mann, Please tell us which version of the GRAND TRUNK WESTERN paint scheme has been chosen for the F3 A-Units. Thank you.

Number 90 posted:

Santa Fe blue freight F3's will have to be Phase IV, as ATSF only had two 4-unit locomotives...

Tom,

While Jonathan in the past alluded to the possibility of other phases, the lack of updates indicates to me there will only be Phase IV units, possibly re-using most of their F7 molds.

For me, I'm now pushing Atlas to reissue their Phase II units in PRR colors.

I can confirm: We are only producing Phase 4 and 5 so we can use our F7 tooling as a base. Earlier phases require completely new tools, too expensive for a short run. We will update the sides of the Loco to be accurate to these phases.

Please provide me a picture of the GTW you think is correct for these Phases of F3s. I am no expert in GTW. I will then post it on our web site.

Scott - China

 

Here is what I have found on the web about the GTW Phase 4 EMD F3 

GTW 9027

https://www.thedieselshop.us/Data%20EMD%20F5.HTML

GTW 9027 and GTW 9023

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=2087629

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=2087628

Grand Trunk Western diesel roster

https://www.thedieselshop.us/GTW.HTML

GTW 9016-9027 were built in September 1948

Andrew

 

The CN and GTW F3 A-units should be nearly identical. The numberboard fot should match the font on the side of the units.

The CN and GTW F3 A-units should be nearly identical. The numberboard font should match the number font on the side of the units.

Should I just order the Grand Trunk Western F3 A-unit and gamble on what I might get for a paint scheme. 

Andrew

GTW has been removed from the reservation list. We only got 1 order. Sorry

The following other roads were removed from the list as well. We will notify customers giving them the option to move their order to other roads, cancel or just let it sit for a possible run in the future. But frankly, when they don't get enough reservations in the first run, it's doubtful that it will be done in a second run.  Jonathan and I are working on better images of the remaining roads to give customers a better idea of what they are ordering.

GTW

MILW

SP&S

DEMO

MOPAC

Really, really trying to find a way to pay for these bad boys.  We still looking at early 2019 for delivery Scott?

Yes, F3s coming 2019 now.

Scott,

Can you tell me the road numbers for the ACL F3s and E6s. 

Thanks,

". . .working on better images of the remaining roads to give customers a better idea of what they are ordering."

Go ahead Scott,  go and show Lionel up by  showing us what we're ordering like the actual colors  . . .  

If you offered the SOO LINE F3 A and B units in the 1960's scheme then I would have to spend more dollars.

I'll be the first to admit we don't always get colors right, but we try to get it right very hard. We have a library of colors now, but even with that the factory goofs up, sometimes big time... If there is a mistake on a drawing that I don't catch, any corrections are on us.  So no one is showing anyone up. We just do what we do as good as we can.

I can tell you this, I don't forget when I make a mistake and pay the price with cancellations and flogging. I won't make the same mistake twice, but there are always new one's to deal with. Sucks being human.

We haven't decided the engine numbers for Es or Fs until we get down to the painting and lettering drawings. Some of the numbers are suggested by our customers. So if you have suggestions email them to me or Jonathan.