Ok I have conventional, dcs, legacy, lionchief and now bluetooth. All of them work separately, but I'm going 2 try 2 or 3 on the same time on the same track (engines only). Have you tried this? Don't you wish you were an octopus?
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That is a nice problem to have!
I would guess the simplest way to reduce the number of remotes would be to use DCS to control TMCC/Legacy. You do lose some of the Legacy features unless you use the DCS App.
Maybe the ultimate set up is 1 smart device running the DCS App and another running the LionChief App. Or flick between the two apps on one device. Although that could get interesting with multiple locos/trains on the same track
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Nick
As Nick said, the DCS App is probably the closet you are going to get to universal control. Personally I'd rather use a remote but this is what we have.
As far as your other post with a LC remote that does 99 trains and a display, well if Lionel built that we'd have Legacy, it would cost a lot more, and the KISS principal would be out the window.
As long as you have wired the track for DCS use, they will all run at the same time on the same track. The DCS engines will complain first and should be the only complainers.
Jushavnfun posted:Ok I have conventional, dcs, legacy, lionchief and now bluetooth. All of them work separately, but I'm going 2 try 2 or 3 on the same time on the same track (engines only). Have you tried this? Don't you wish you were an octopus?
Is this you??
Actually yes, just last week. I ran two freights on the same track, one a Legacy lashup and the other DCS. After a while, I added another Legacy lashup on another track.
The hardest part was taking the video.
All of those command systems are made to run on the same track at the same time with the same voltage. You just won't be able to run a conventional engine on the same track.
Been there, done that. We've had Legacy/TMCC, DCS, and LC/LC+ on the same tracks at the same time, no sweat at all.
Guns,
We may run a lot of different Trains at the same time all the time, including conventional from the TR/Side Receiver of the Z4K and not think much about it, others it seems are now doing the same thing. Writing about is cool however, glad he has a good time doing it.
PCRR/Dave
I have DCS, Legacy, TMCC (ERR) running on any tracks. One issue I have encountered is that some Legacy (TMCC) engines and some cars (Atlas cabooses) and I have an MTH operating signalman caboose (converted to TMCC - ERR kit) may cause an issue with the DCS signal. Barry's book has the capacitor specifications that needed to be added to those problem items that illuminates this issue.
Well, Lionel originally equipped many of the Lionchief/semi scale tooled locos with TMCC many years ago.
i.e. Lionel Lines semi scale berkshire TMCC semi scale pacific TMCC semi scale K4 TMCC semi scale Mikado
Had folks not complained about the TMCC/Legacy being too complicated ( although far more primitive and easy to use than say the modern smartphone, but now folks want an app
) you wouldn't have this problem.
It would only be TMCC/Legacy handheld and the DCS remote to worry about. Be careful what you wish for I guess...
winrose46 posted:I have DCS, Legacy, TMCC (ERR) running on any tracks. One issue I have encountered is that some Legacy (TMCC) engines and some cars (Atlas cabooses) and I have an MTH operating signalman caboose (converted to TMCC - ERR kit) may cause an issue with the DCS signal. Barry's book has the capacitor specifications that needed to be added to those problem items that illuminates this issue.
Actually, it's a 22uh choke that will fix the DCS interference issue, not a capacitor.
RickO posted:Well, Lionel originally equipped many of the Lionchief/semi scale tooled locos with TMCC many years ago.
i.e. Lionel Lines semi scale berkshire
Had folks not complained about the TMCC/Legacy being too complicated ( although far more primitive and easy to use than say the modern smartphone, but now folks want an app
It would only be TMCC/Legacy handheld and the DCS remote to worry about. Be careful what you wish for I guess...
winrose46 posted:I have DCS, Legacy, TMCC (ERR) running on any tracks. One issue I have encountered is that some Legacy (TMCC) engines and some cars (Atlas cabooses) and I have an MTH operating signalman caboose (converted to TMCC - ERR kit) may cause an issue with the DCS signal. Barry's book has the capacitor specifications that needed to be added to those problem items that illuminates this issue.
As I am getting back into skill this, what book are you referring? If this was answered and I missed it, my apologies.
-Carl
Thanks everyone. I feel pretty good I can now run all my TMCC with my legacy controller.
I really prefer the Legacy controller it's easier for me to operate, I like being able to put the 2 digit # in to access the engine. Also love the base it sits in, we'll thought out.
Jushavnfun posted:Thanks everyone. I feel pretty good I can now run all my TMCC with my legacy controller.
I really prefer the Legacy controller it's easier for me to operate, I like being able to put the 2 digit # in to access the engine. Also love the base it sits in, we'll thought out.
The best part about the cab 2 is you can watch your trains while you run them. Much of the control can be done by feel, instead of staring at a phone or iPad screen to see where to put your fingers.
Be careful with that Z-Controller. You may not need it once you get the hang of conventional ops.
"As I am getting back into skill this, what book are you referring? If this was answered and I missed it, my apologies." Barry's book is "The DCS O Gauge Companion by Barry Broskowitz. I think he is up to the 3rd addition. You can purchase it from the MTH web site (I think).
"Actually, it's a 22uh choke that will fix the DCS interference issue, not a capacitor." Sorry about that. With my tremors I had to give up soldering 15 years ago and I have let my electrical knowledge go by the wayside.
Carl,
The book mentioned is Barry's DCS O Gauge Companion, if you are running DCS I highly recommend it. I run both Legacy and DCS and reference the Book as I build all the time.
A great piece of Technical Engineering writing, no doubt about it.
PCRR/Dave
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