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In run 257 Backshop Letters, questioner Gary asked if there is a way to add backup lights to his 681 turbine.  However I believe Jim's answer may be in error.

 

The mechanical reverse unit drum has embedded copper pieces that make contact with stationary fingers, that in turn connect to a grounded motor field coil, and two isolated armature brush plate connections.  In neutral position, the two middle 'C' shaped fingers rest on plastic, no current flows, motor off.  In the other two positions the embedded pieces make connections such that the field is energized and armature is connected  so motor runs forward.  In other position, the armature connections are reversed relative to field winding causing the motor to run in reverse.  Thus there is no separate reverse unit contact or isolated connection that is exclusive to backup function that would light the lamp(s).

 

My reference is numerous reverse unit schematics shown in Greenbergs Repair and Operating Manual.  I believe Gary's 681 probably follows the same scheme.  Other answers welcomed. 

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Look on PG 181 of Greenberg's book, Pos 1

drawing.Connect the reverse lamp to the

pins marked 1 and 3 of the e unit.

In pos1, forward, the lamp is shortered out.

In Pos 2, neutral,the lamp has power but on

ground. In Pos 3, reverse,the lamp is across

the field winding. The reverse lamp will

receive only half the track voltage and only in

reverse.

 

Originally Posted by pa:

Look on PG 181 of Greenberg's book, Pos 1

drawing.Connect the reverse lamp to the

pins marked 1 and 3 of the e unit.

In pos1, forward, the lamp is shortered out.

In Pos 2, neutral,the lamp has power but on

ground. In Pos 3, reverse,the lamp is across

the field winding. The reverse lamp will

receive only half the track voltage and only in

reverse.

 

Brilliant!!  I was thinking of this, but for some reason kept thinking that there would be winding current backfeed such that the backup lamp would be on full or half brite but not off in forward.
Tip of the hat, sir.

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