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@Lou1985 posted:

Speculation, based on previous actions by Lionel. 2021 V2 had items with a blurb noting "ALL NEW TOOLING", when they were clearly made from former MTH tooling (C-Liner, CA-1 caboose, wooden passenger cars, etc).

I Don't think so. The tender looks correct for the 1218. The MTH tender was not correct for the 1218. I guess they could have put the Lionel tender behind the MTH engine since I can't really see that as well.

@Lou1985 posted:

Speculation, based on previous actions by Lionel. 2021 V2 had items with a blurb noting "ALL NEW TOOLING", when they were clearly made from former MTH tooling (C-Liner, CA-1 caboose, wooden passenger cars, etc).

The MTH A Class tender was the same tooling they used for the Y6b. I noticed on the new Vision A, the tender is different. So who knows what's new or not?

My observations were that there were the least amount of cars in the parking lot that I had ever observed since starting to come to the show every fall since 2006 (and of course 2020).  There were vacant tables in all of the halls, including the Orange Hall.  Some of the halls even had areas where there were no tables set up.  The crowds were light and I made my first pass through the Blue, Silver, Red, White, Yellow, and Orange halls by 2 pm and left the fairgrounds by 2:30 pm.  I thought about going back tomorrow and attending the Ives Society meeting, but decided to drive home and save myself the cost of another hotel room.

The Wyndham Gardens bandit meet, where I was selling, had a very sparse crowd all three days.

Spent c. $500 at the bandit meets and c. $75 at the main TCA show. 

Best part of the show was seeing all of the friends that I missed seeing last year.

@jini5 posted:

I count 9 people in that photo. All but 2 are wearing a face covering. Did EDTCA have a mandate after all? If so, I would have been there. If someone knows please post. I might be able to go tomorrow. Nothing political just would like to know so maybe I can go.

There are signs around the York Fair buildings saying that masks are required except for fully vaccinated people.  I am fully vaccinated but I still wear a mask.  I had COVID back in January and I don't want to find out whether I can survive it a second time.  Having said all that, my observation is that a majority of people are not wearing masks.  I hope they are all vaccinated but there is no way of knowing for sure.

@PGentieu posted:

There are signs around the York Fair buildings saying that masks are required except for fully vaccinated people.  I am fully vaccinated but I still wear a mask.  I had COVID back in January and I don't want to find out whether I can survive it a second time.  Having said all that, my observation is that a majority of people are not wearing masks.  I hope they are all vaccinated but there is no way of knowing for sure.

Thank you for the info. I got what I needed. I will pass on tomorrow. I will save some money by staying off that turnpike. After thinking a bit more........I probably shouldn't have asked. I now know what I needed. So please, if you don't mind, can we NOT talk about masks?

@MartyE posted:

Masks are optional. Wear it if feel you need to. All of the Lionel folks were wearing them so I’m guessing it was company policy.

Regardless of the missing vendors and smaller crowds it was a great day for trains.

In regards to the smaller crowds......I am looking at some of the pics from the OGR contest and not seeing may people at all in the background of some of those shots. So HOW small was the crowd?

A small haul for me today.  I was proud that I stayed focused on only getting what I came for.  I really could have purchased some diesels and freight cars.  Prices were decent.

Some PS-2/3 Couplers for my RailPro diesel.

Two Campers and two Evans Designs campfire lights for my campground I'm in the process of building.

And a piece of an MTH fueling facility I got at a very good price because it was missing a part and had no box.  My plan it to kitbash this and run my battery charge cords through it to charge the batteries in my deadrail engines.  That way when they are plugged in they look like they are being fueled... in reality, they are.

Ron

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In my opinion, yes, it was somewhat less crowded, but with social distancing and larger booths like MTH, Ro, Smith, Scenic Express, Trainworld, etc not in attendance, the place was a lot more spread out.  So I think the pics shown here are somewhat deceiving.  I stopped at a dozen or more places and had to wait my turn for service and in two cases, I gave up waiting because they were busy.   On the other hand, I thought that the purple hall was very busy and I think the way it was laid out, there were more sales tables there.  I’ll hit the other halls tomorrow.    

Took a center picture looking in every direction of the Orange Hall. Bit of empty spots here and there, but not too awful bad. My other center pictures were blurry. I really got to stop and take some time to get into focus. I think that is partially because I was already worn out from walking everywhere before taking pictures. Maybe tomorrow I will start that early.IMG_2321

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