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Just a quick update... I checked the size of the two Apple Compressed File (HEIF) pictures that I took for a different thread on OGR Forum that got me into this discussion, and their size was 1.2MB. Assuming that if I had used JPEG settings, I would have gotten a similar size to the above picture of 3.4MB, it sounds like Apple is using to 3 to 1 compression ratio which is not "that" bad. So my previous guess of 10 to 1 compression was not correct. Looking at the two Apple compressed files on a 24 inch monitor, I can see great details including counting rivets on a building.

As I posted earlier in the this thread, I converted the 2 pictures from HEIF type to PNG to post them on the other thread, and the size of the PNG files are 2.1MB, so again I don't think there was a whole lot of "loss" details.

Last edited by Rich Melvin

OK, finally figured out how to export the pix in their saved format (JPG or HEIC). Settings>Photos>Transfer to Mac or PC - check keep originals. This scene isn't a great example - not a lot of fine detail - but here's a comparison of one pic shot in HEIC, and one in JPG. Opened both in PS, cropped to a little under 1,000 pixels on a side, and saved as the highest jpeg quality.

First is HEIC:

shotheic

Second is the jpeg:

shotjpeg

The jpeg out of the phone was 4.6 MB, and the HEIC was 3 MB.

And, just to confirm what DG wrote, uploading the HEIC file to the forum didn't work. It shows a page with the corner turned down where the image thumbnail should be under files, when in edit reply.

David

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I agree with Jim, I have uploaded Apple compressed pictures to Windows 10 computers with no problem, posted them on camera forums with no problems (not surprising), and text/emailed them to Android based devices with no problems for the receiving party, so that is why I was surprised when OGR forum software didn’t seem to like the files.

In fact the way I converted the Apple compressed pictures to PNG files to post here was to upload them to a Windows 10 computer and then convert and post them

@fastman posted:

There is nothing  in these directions that seem to apply to my Imac Thanks Tho

Maybe not exactly the same, but the process is basically the same on an Imac.

  • Start a NEW POST or a REPLY to an existing post.
  • If you are starting a NEW POST, click on "Upload Attachments."
  • If you are REPLYING in an existing thread, click on "Add Attachments" in the bottom left.
  • The "Photos or Camera" window will open on your Imac. (TOUCH 1)
  • Click on "Upload Files" (TOUCH 2)
  • Find theimage you want inyour photo library. Click on it to choose it. (TOUCH 3)
    (There may be one more thing you will have to touch here.)
  • Click the button which says, "Insert all photos and videos into post body (large size)" (TOUCH 4)
  • Click "Finished" (TOUCH 5)
  • Click "Submit Reply" (TOUCH 6)

DONE.

If you can see the pictures you post on a Windows PC, but not on your Android phone, that suggests more of a problem with your Android phone settings than an uploading problem.  Maybe you have some security software that is "blocking" the photos from your phone, or maybe it just takes a while longer for your phone to "download" those photos.

Chuck

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I've been attempting to post a reply (Firefox browser and Dell laptop computer) including photos and a video to the OGR Forum during the day and evening on Tuesday, January 30, 2024. On Tuesday evening, I attempted to upload a post having two photos (about 1.5 MB each) and one video (about 35MB) between about 6 PM and 12 Midnight EST. On numerous attempts (probably 10), the photos are taking unusually long times upload and process. On other attempts, the uploads are fast (say one second) but the processing step takes a long time (a few minutes). The video has been failing altogether. The video upload may be quick (less than one minute) but the processing step takes excessively long (say 5 or 10 minutes) and the posted video window either appears black or turns black when playback is attempted from the Forum. I've had enough for tonight and will try again on Wednesday morning.

I've posted thousands of replies, photos and videos on the OGR Forum since 2016. The photographs have been taken with the same I-phone I've been using for years and they play properly on my Dell computer, which I've been using for three years. Uploading as described above also seems to be erratic lately - not just on 01/30/2024. Has anyone else had problems lately?

MELGAR

Edit: 01/31/2024 9:58 AM EST - Same files posted quickly and properly this morning.

Last edited by MELGAR
@Rich Melvin posted:

Maybe not exactly the same, but the process is basically the same on an Imac.

  • Click the button which says, "Insert all photos and videos into post body (large size)" (TOUCH 4)
  • Click "Finished" (TOUCH 5)
  • Click "Submit Reply" (TOUCH 6)

DONE.

I wish that everyone would do this step every time that they post pictures!

Or maybe it could be made the default rather tan an option.

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