Can a Powermaster 360 be operated with a single 180W Powerhouse? All of the documentation only mentions connecting "two Powerhouse 180s". And, if one can use only a single PH180, does it have to go into a specific connection on the Powermaster 360? Thanks.
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I wouldn't suggest attempting is as the power protections programmed into the 360W PowerMaster are tuned to either two 135W bricks or two 180W bricks via the 270W/360W switch.
I'm 99% sure that one will be fine. The whole purpose of the 360W version was to handle more than one, but I can't imagine it won't work with one. The older TPC300 and TPC400 just paralleled the two transformers on the input. I wouldn't be surprised if the two connectors on the PM-360 are in parallel as well.
@gunrunnerjohn, to elaborate on what I was getting at above, even if the inputs are wired in parallel, using a single 180W would effectively nullify the fold back protections which the manual states drop to 15A/20A which is still in excess of the 10A rating of the single 180W brick.
I guess it would simply trip the breaker on the 180W brick more frequently then and not really be a terrible configuration. Would it have been that hard for Lionel to add a 7.5 and 10 Amp option to these and/or bless&document single PowerHouse operation and any resulting caveats?
Thanks, bmoran4 and John. Your explanation reminded me of what I read and ignored in the manual about the protection levels built into the PowerMaster.
I understand Lionel would like to sell two bricks with each Powermaster but it would have been more helpful if the manual had discussed the single brick option; even better if they had followed Bmoran4's suggestion of a switch to select single brick protection.
I had a tpc400 which I ran on one PH180 for some time and the brick did trigger on shorts. I think I'm going to give it a try. It's either that or I'm going to have a Powermaster 360 for sale as I don't need 20 amps of power for my modest configuration. Thank you for the information and opinions.
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Like the others said you should be fine. I’m 100% sure the 180W brick will trip before the PM has a chance to do anything because of the high current settings.
I’d be willing to bet Lionel can’t say you can use 1 and leave that other plug that is essentially hot with 18VAC open to anything that falls into it
@zhubl posted:I’d be willing to bet Lionel can’t say you can use 1 and leave that other plug that is essentially hot with 18VAC open to anything that falls into it
Gee, I have 500 feet of track that has 18VAC on it open to anything that falls into it, why would I worry about a tiny plug?
Fair point John. Something tells me UL looks down on any uncovered and unused plugs in general though 😉