I have five separate track plans; DCS; remote tiu system. on track 1 mth train runs; fire up track 2, put same train on it, get train not on track. What am I doing wrong. Sonny
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Sonny, once again, you have to lay out the details.
I'm sorry RJR, I just can't seem to get those details right. Let's see look at it this way, But we know this, DCS system, TIU; remote control; All engines are loaded into remote. NOW HERE WE GO: We have five separate tracks going in a circle. We just power up circle 1. Train runs good. Now we fire up circle 2 we now put same train from circle 1 on to circle 2. REMOTE SHOWS NO TRAIN ON TRACK. RJR I hope I explained it right if not please forgive me SONNY
No problem, Sonny. Let's go over your system from the basics When I use the term "TIU circuit," I refer to Fixed 1, Fixed 2, Variable 1, & Variable 2.
1. To which circuits do you have each of the 5 loops connected?
2. The TIU needs power for its internal circuits, apart from the track circuits. This power can come from a feed connected to Fixed 1, or you can plug a source into the AUX port, which disconnects the feed from Fixed 1. Do you feed it through the AUX port?
3. Looking at the TIU from the input side, internally in the lower left hand corner there is a light. When you are trying to run a train on track 2, is that light lit?
4. What about tracks 3, 4, & 5?
When I see the answers to these questions, I can start to pinpoint the problem.
RJR; You sure have patience with me. Let me try it this way. I am using 180 watt transformer connected to fixed 1; output goes to track 1.. train run fine; NOW when I try to connect my wire to track 2,(remember now everything is connected to fixed 1)I put same train from track 1 on to track 2 my remote now shows no train etc; Is it possible that I should connect a separate 180 watt trans to fixed 2 and run outport 2 to track 2; an continue this method with each separate track; USEING new transformer too each fixed track 3 4 5; of cause I would have to use my second TIU. I'm sorry RJR I ask you too unscramble this puzzle. Sonny
RJR; just a side line, you have to admit we sure are making a lot of reading and puzzle for our friends in this thread. Sonny
To function, the TIU must either be powered through the AUX port or by at least 14 volts applied to Fixed 1. I gather from your response that you are not using he AUX port. When you try running on Fixed 2, are you still applying power to Fixed 1. You must.
Note my question 3.
You do not need a separate transformer to each TIU circuit, unless you are running so many trains at once that the capacity of the transformer is exceeded.
RJR; O.K. on using the aux. I hoop it up to one of my OF MY 750 WATT brick transformers. I will then make sure red light in tiu shows.RJR, are you saying that with my180 watt brick hooked up to fixed 1 and connecting all 4 or 5 tracks trains should run? Thanks again Sonny90 (an I mean age).
Each track that you want to use needs a power source and a channel from the TIU. Example track 1 needs a power source, track 2 needs a power source and so on.
One transformer will only work with one TIU output.
Even though you power the TIU on auxiliary power you still need to supply each TIU channel it's own power source for it to work with it's own track.
If you want to control four tracks then you need four power supplies.
Lee Fritz
One transformer will only work with one TIU output.
I don't agree, Lee. One transformer could actually be used with all 4 TIU channels.
are you saying that with my180 watt brick hooked up to fixed 1 and connecting all 4 or 5 tracks trains should run?
If you mean the transformer is jumpered to all 4 inputs, I would say yes.
Lee,
If you want to control four tracks then you need four power supplies.
That is not the case. RJR is correct. You can use one power source for as many TIU channels as you like.
The only caveat is that the power source must be large enough to service all of the engines and lighted cars that are on the tracks connect to the TIU channels to which the power source is connected.
RJE; LEE; BARRY you men are the greatest; Well I have fixed 1 powered by 180 watt brick, AND FELLOWS AT LAST I HAVE 5 TRAINS RUNNING ON 5 SEPARATE TRACKS, now I am now going to put number 6 on line. However I only have one train with passages car on line while the other 4 trains are only the engines. Now how do I add extra power like my other 180 watt brick? Say I use fixed 2 what do I use if any at 2 outport? Sonny
To split the power, simply add the brick to one or more inputs. I run two 180 watt bricks, one on fixed1, variable1 and the other on fixed2, variable2.
Do as GRJ suggests, but don't have 2 connected to the same input.
With 5 loops and one TIU, I'd use all 4 TIU channels, and have the 5th on one of the others. If you don't run conventional locos, you can set the variable channels to act as if they were fixed and wire the inputs as GRJ suggests.
I run the variable channels in fixed mode, if I happen to have a conventional locomotive to test, I simply select the track and roll the voltage wheel, and I'm in conventional mode.
