I have a 1950 scout engine #1101 that won't go forward or reverse, the e unit clicks every time i change directions, but the engine won't go either way,i did clean the motor, i used emery cloth & i sprayed some cleaner on a paper towel & wiped the motor with it & then i used a dry rag to wipe it clean,i don't know if this is what you are suppose to do,as i little knowledge of these things as you can see,however, i think it may need brushes because i can see a spark by the motor as if it wants to turn but can't because there is poor contact with the brushes. I have had this engine since i was 7 years old & it has a huge sentimental vaue to me ,i am 69 years old now well you can do the math on that. What i want to know does anyone know where i can get brushes for such an old engine i know how to put them in if thats the problem, if not then i guess i will have to find someone who knows how to repair these things. Thanks for any healp you can give me .
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There should be a gap between the commutator segments (copper plate). You can gently clean out any gook with a tooth pick.
To answer your question: brushes and brush springs are readily available for your loco. The link below will take you to the old Lionel factory parts list for the part numbers.
C.W.Burfle ; Thank you very much for your quick response,i went on olsens web site and ordered the brushes for the motor,i hope this does the trick.
I hope your 1101, Greenberg's list it for 1948 only, is not like my 235 scout engine that basically when something goes wrong you replace the motorized unit. The 235 has a sealed motor unit and it is not advisable to open the unit to repair the roller wheels for the center rail.
I know the 1101 has sentimental value to you, but maybe you can display it if it won't run.
If the center rail rollers are similar to the 224E from the 1940's then the engine is worth saving as is.
I had major league trouble repairing a 235 scout engine's motor. Used brushes and springs from an H.O. race car motor just to get it to run again.
Finally I got a wasted frame on a scout engine, motor in good shape, from my ebay trading freind and I used the D.C. motor in the 235 scout, converted it to a 2-4-0.
Lee F.
Your 235 Scout engine certainly is repairable.
The Lionel factory service manual has a good write-up on how to go about disassembling and re-assembing those motors.
However, in order to open up a scout motor, one has to remove the drive wheels. Most folks do not have the tools to remove and re-install drive wheels.
From what I see on the 1101 parts list, it has a more traditional motor assembly, with a three position e-unit. Generally these mechanisms can be serviced with a few basic tools.
C W Burfle,
Thank you, as I didn't forsee any repair for my 235 scout. Also good to know that the older 1101 can be repaired pretty easy.
Lee F.
The 1101 is a stripped down 1655. This is a good little engine and you should have no trouble getting parts to get it running again. The brush part number is 1-92. Get a copy of service manual pages LOC-1655 for more details.
The scout engine i have is very easy to open up,just 2 screws for the shell, & 1 screw on each side for the drive rods then just 2 small screws to remove the motor.
I am trying to get the service manual on the lionel web site for the scout engine #1101,but i can't seem to be able to find it,what am i doing wrong?
It is to old for the current Lionel web site. You can find the 1101 parts list at olsenstoy.com/library. LOC-1101 will get the parts list. LOC-1655 will gets drawings and some text.
Your 235 Scout engine certainly is repairable.
The Lionel factory service manual has a good write-up on how to go about disassembling and re-assembing those motors.
However, in order to open up a scout motor, one has to remove the drive wheels. Most folks do not have the tools to remove and re-install drive wheels.
From what I see on the 1101 parts list, it has a more traditional motor assembly, with a three position e-unit. Generally these mechanisms can be serviced with a few basic tools.
C.W.Burfle can you tell me how i can get a coppy of the lionel service manual that shows you how to disassembling and re-assembling the 1101 scout motors?
The parts company: Olsens Toy train parts has scans of the Postwar Lionel service manual on the web. Lionel does not.
Here is the link for the top of the library:
http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/searchcd1.htm
Here is the link for the 1101 parts list:
http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/1101.htm
And here is the link for the repair instructions. The instructions are foe a 1655, but your 1101 uses the same motor mechanism.
http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/1655.htm
As you click on the image of each page, a new window should open with a readable verison.
For those interested in repairing plastic scout motors, here is a link to a section on repairing them.
http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/1120.htm
The design of the scout motors was revised over the years. Lionel prepared more than one set of repair instructions. I think the one I linked above gives a good idea on how to service all of them, but folks may want to browse the postwar section of the library for other documentation.