S gauge coming from LCCA

JUST determined the locomotive roadname. union pacific. wait until you see this set. i'm waiting on LIONEL'S approval any day now.

the club is thinking about 200 sets or so max. We are not sure of our market. feedback would be helpful.

thanks

louie

Cool. Union Pacific is just fine with me. I joined the LCCA this year when I started to hear the rumors of them producing an S Gauge set with Lionel. Waiting to see the result.

you will love it. as lionel produces more steam the offerings will get better and better

Hello Lou, would the "small diesel locomotive" be a Baldwin Switcher?

I don't believe Lionel has made one yet in UP livery for American Flyer.

Mark

OK, I'm intrigued...

Rusty

When will the sets be available and how do I order one? I joined LCCA today after reading this thread just so I can get one. As for steam, when the Berkshire sets are released, will the locomotive be available separately? If so, would you consider releasing a version that's painted but not lettered? Also maybe an oil tender?

Cheers,

Ken

i expect the sets will be available for ordering about the last quarter but maybe sooner if i can get the bean counters at the big L to give the club a number.

right now i'm looking at a Baldwin SWITCHER IN UNION PACIFIC WITH THE FLAG with the coolest paint scheme, a new water mellon car, a new scottsdale auto auction flat car with 1953 corvette HOT WHEELS! special route of the challenger box car and a UP overland caboose. it will have the new fast track but no power pack. if its affordable i will have railsounds installed. it will be conventional and the set will be produced in very small numbers until we the LCCA find our market share.

I WILL NOT disappoint you

What is LCCA?

LCCA=Lionel Collectors Club of America

wait until you see the art! sit tight ok. eventually when LIONEL gives the ok and we have an agreement i'll post the picture.

thanks

llouie

Looking forward to this, Lou.  I'm sure you will keep us posted.  I think 200 sets will go quickly if affordable.  :<

I would like to see the plastic Gilbert B6 reissued.  The tooling should be there as was the Docksider and Baldwin.

I seem to remember someone telling me many years ago that the tooling for the B6 was missing in part or all, but I'm happy to be told otherwise now 

.

SORRY MOST ARE GONE AND REQUIRE NEW TOOLS

gave lionel the basic idea of what I want today. now if they do the art they can price it out. my projected delivery if they make it will be december 2014. that much lead time is REQUIRED on American Flyer.

thanks

louie

first set will have a baldwin switcher. if it does well we will ask for a new die cast steam engine for our next set. how about a little switcher and tender!!

Hi Lou,

Suggest that Lionel and you may want to consider this project further. Lionel has already done reissues of the Baldwin switcher many times, including a Southern work train starter set. The Baldwin is generally considered one of the less desirable  Gilbert diesels.

Of course, one can (and probably should) hold off on a final judgment until the artwork and the set composition are posted. However, the choice of a Baldwin is rather surprising. The current version of the GP-7 from Lionel-AF, for example, might be a stronger choice for a freight set.

Sorry to appear difficult and I hope that I am not giving offense. However, given the cost and the lead time, the observation might be better offered sooner rather than later. Good luck on the project, regardless.

Thanks for listening and for your hard efforts.

Bob

Sounds cool.  I love S gauge although it is certainly in the minority of scales but it is perfect size wise for small kids to play with and let ME have enough room for a larger layout.  I suppose it will join the wall of O gauge in boxes here at carpet central in the meantime when it comes out!

Lou, I would like to second Bob's recommendation on the GP-7.  Thank you for your efforts on this, I am looking forward to the final details on the set.  Chris

there is a minor problem i discovered on the geeps and they are hit or miss. That is my opinion but not everybody looks at things the way I do. I'm not saying the engines are poorly made by any stretch of the imagination. PLEASE NO RUMORS OK! i must be honest though THE GP -9 was my FIRST choice.

i want to show the art and then i will ask you guys for your thoughts. i really want this to work. by the way the set will NOT have a power pack but will contain new fast track. i have used it and like it. Also we are working with a few S gaugers to come up with a modular program!

thanks

louie

Just a note concerning the American Flyer Baldwin switcher.

I purchased new two C&NW Baldwin switchers #6-48067 when they were originally offered and both were defective with the identical problem from the factory.

The heat shrink tubing covering the wires connected at the top of the pickup shoes was badly applied. When the engine would round a curve the turning truck would allow the wire to touch the frame thereby shorting out the power.

It wasn't a pretty sight to see the ampmeter spike 10 amps on a new engine.

The fix was to desolder the wires, apply longer heat shrink tubing and resolder.

Hopefully Lionel has stepped up their quality control in such matters. I find the same error in two identical engines to be more than just a fluke.

Maybe the Geep isn't such a bad idea after all.

Mark

If you've ever followed the threads on other LCCA projects, you'd find that Lou is like a pit bull when it comes to getting things right.

I can't speak to quality issues on the Baldwin or GP's, the last piece of "traditional" Flyer I bought was the Great Northern EP-5 (I'm a sucker for EP-5's) which the only thing I found wrong with was in how high it sits and the pathetic sound system, which mercifully could be turned off.

Rusty

we are working with a new engineer thank heavens

I'm surprised by all the talk of another Baldwin unit from Lionel as the American Models S-12 is quite nice:

Bob

And, as long as the subject of passenger cars came up:

Top: American Models 72' Coach

Middle: Contemporary Lionel Flyer

Bottom: American HiRail reproduction American Flyer

Top: American Models 80' Pullman

Bottom: Contemporary American Flyer

Rusty

hi bob, i just submitted a product release for price. i asked Lionels enginneers to see if we can stuff railsounds in there some way shape or form. there will be no smoke. i even considered a dummy for the sound system if they run out of room. the set will also be priced out with an operating caboose and 2 new freight cars. i promise to do my best. We welcome all the American flyer folks.

IF we make this set I bet EDDIE BOYLE from OGR places the first order! LOL

best wishes

louie

Good Day Lou,

When do you think pre production pictures may be available to view. I realize this request is very early in the process. Q4 2013? 

Best regards,

Frank