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Hey Folks,

  I have a Scout engine, that is a very strong runner,  but is noisy as heck.   I am going to replace the brushes.  I removed the shell, and removed the cover plate and underlying brush covers that hold down the brushes.

  Here is what it looks like:



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I have ordered the new brushes, and I think that replacing them will be pretty easy.  The problem is, that the plate that the brushes contact (the armature plate?) is absolutely filthy.   

Is there any way I can clean this plate without pulling the black plastic motor housing in half to expose the full plate?    I have seen many warnings about using emery paper to clean the plate, but I have 1000 fine grit emery paper, which is used to give auto paint a mirror like shine.  Hard to believe that this would damage the face of the plate.     I was thinking of maybe gluing a round piece of the paper to the flat end of a pencil eraser, and turning the train wheels to spin the plate to clean it.

Or, would mineral spirits (or CRC 2-26), on a soft cloth on the end of the eraser clean the plate?

If I must get the two halves of the motor housing apart, , then I have already removed the two spring side-clips that hold them together, but I won't be able to separate the two halves unless I remove the outside non-geared wheels that you see in the picture.   Will removal of those wheels allow me to separate the two halves of the housing, or am I going to need to remove even more parts?   

If I have to remove those two wheels, how do I do it please?    I have a proper size metal punch, with which I can punch the wheel axle pins inward.  Will that allow the wheels to come off?  Or, will it just destroy the motor?


Thanks for any and all information. 

Mannyrock

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Clean the commutator by sticking a 'Q' tip dipped in Naphtha into the brush holes and rotating the wheels. You do NOT want to split the case on these plastic case Scouts, as they are the devil to get back together again. I know from experience; don't do it. Pulling the wheels off and pressing them on again will eventually cause the case to crack and then you have no motor.

The service manual page shows all the internal parts that have to line up to get the case together again.

If you have the time and the patience...



Larry

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OK, thanks for all advice.

The commutator is totally clean. Looks brand new.

In the very center of the photo, you will see a small dimple, into which the commutator shaft protrudes.   

In working with other engines, the instructions call this an "oil well" and say to put two drops of oil in the well.   I saw another engine instruction which said to put a dab of grease in  the well.

Since this engine will sit upright, the "well" in the photo will be sideways when the engine is running.   Anything I put in the well will spill or leak out.

Am I suppose to put oil in this well, or grease, or nothing?

Also, when I reassemble this, the brush holders are two strangle little geared wheels, which sit in the large plastic housing and mesh together in the center.  When I opened all of this up, those little wheels were covered with grease.  You can see grease residue in the plastic housing in the photo.  I cleaned this grease out.

Are these two  gears suppose to be greased?  Or should I leave them running dry?

Also, as Mitch pointed out, the hole in the wheel on the left is not utilized by the Scout engines, since no connecting rod hooks to it.  I think that they just used a common wheel that they were building for other Steamers.  They knew that kids wouldn't care about the spare hole.

Thanks very much for your help.

Mannyrock

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