Skip to main content

I only have 3 sets of F units. I haven't seen anyone else post them yet, so here they are.

 

New MTH F7's with PS/3 

MTH F7-1

 

K-Line (The MTH set was purchased to replace these, but I haven't sold them yet)  

K-Line F units 3

 

Here is a shot with an MTH E-8, an MTH F-3, and a Lionel semi-scale F3 from about 1999-2000. I took the shot to illustrate the incorrect paint job on the MTH F-unit. It's painted in passenger colors, and the stripes should meet at a point at the center of the windshield. The Lionel paint job is not perfect, but much closer to correct than the MTH. I've since sold the MTH F-units.  

3diesels

Attachments

Images (3)
  • MTH F7-1
  • K-Line F units 3
  • 3diesels
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:

K-Line represented here...with a bit of added detail.

 

Bruce

Looks great.  By the way, I sent you, Bruce, an email using the address in your profile and it came up undeliverable.  My email address is in my profile; send me your email address and I'll resend my email.  Thanks.

 

Carl

 Sorry about that, Carl.  Profile with current email updated.

 

Bruce

Bruce, the email address in your profile is the same one I tried earlier, and it again did not work.

 

I'll just ask here:  what detail did you add--handrails,etc.?

 

Carl

Carl,

  While the units came with grab rails by the front and rear doors, below the headlight and at the extreme end of the body, these were simply in black.  Pretty much anything CP painted in the tuscan and grey scheme had the contrasting yellow railing.  I added the grab irons on either side below the number boards as prototypically found on CP's FP7 #1400.  I discovered that CP never had F3's in their roster so I just went with what might have been.  Bent some flat bar stock brass to simulate wind vents on the side glass and added wipers.  A bit of silver and red paint around the fuel filler area,  yellow striping on the air grills by the cab doors and painted the horns grey.  That's it.

 

Bruce

Originally Posted by brwebster:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:

K-Line represented here...with a bit of added detail.

 

Bruce

Looks great.  By the way, I sent you, Bruce, an email using the address in your profile and it came up undeliverable.  My email address is in my profile; send me your email address and I'll resend my email.  Thanks.

 

Carl

 Sorry about that, Carl.  Profile with current email updated.

 

Bruce

Bruce, the email address in your profile is the same one I tried earlier, and it again did not work.

 

I'll just ask here:  what detail did you add--handrails,etc.?

 

Carl

Carl,

  While the units came with grab rails by the front and rear doors, below the headlight and at the extreme end of the body, these were simply in black.  Pretty much anything CP painted in the tuscan and grey scheme had the contrasting yellow railing.  I added the grab irons on either side below the number boards as prototypically found on CP's FP7 #1400.  I discovered that CP never had F3's in their roster so I just went with what might have been.  Bent some flat bar stock brass to simulate wind vents on the side glass and added wipers.  A bit of silver and red paint around the fuel filler area,  yellow striping on the air grills by the cab doors and painted the horns grey.  That's it.

 

Bruce

Bruce, thanks for the details.  The engine is a beauty out of the box; you made it better!

 

IMHO, the F3's offered are closer to the prototype F7 than they are to an F3.

 

Carl

Last edited by Pingman
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Pingman:

 

IMHO, the F3's offered are closer to the prototype F7 than they are to an F3.

 

Carl

Probably because the vast majority of the photos posted above, are NOT actually F3 units. Many posters just assumed any and all "F" model units would comply with the original poster's request.

Hot Water, my quoted comment was directed at the manufacturers, especially Lionel since they have been at it longer than the others, and not at anyone posting a picture of an engine marketed as an F7, if that was the point of your reply.

 

Carl 

Last edited by Pingman
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Pingman:


IMHO, the F3's offered are closer to the prototype F7 than they are to an F3.

 

Carl

That all depends on you're definition of F3 and when:

 

ATSF 19LABC

ATSF F3-#18

EMD F3 ATSF 16C

 

Santa Fe F3 26

Santa Fe F3 30C

Santa Fe F3 33C

All part of Santa Fe's 16 Class F3's.

 

Rusty

Rusty, the pictures are great.  My opinion was based on pictures in my train books which showed many roads operating F3's with three portholes per side and tall roof fan shrouds--those are the most noticeable differences with Lionel's F3.  Some of your pictures depict those features.  You raise a valid point that not all F3's are identical.

 

Carl

For a timeline of ATSF's acquisitions of F units and there numbers here's a link:

 

http://trainweb.org/jfuhrtrain...frames/Timeline.html

 

It's included in this apparently exhaustive review of SF's F unit history:

 

http://trainweb.org/jfuhrtrain...frames/Timeline.html

 

Without reading the information in detail, basically an F unit with a three digit number is an F7 or F9, and those with two digit numbers are F3's--there are exceptions to this generalization.  Checkout the links above for more detailed information.

 

I only found these links in the past few minutes because I was curious about what Lionel was using as the prototype for the postwar units. FWIW, the first F7 was delivered to SF in 1949 and the first F3 in 1946 .

 

Carl

 

 

Last edited by Pingman

Here's a few of mine, not all F3's, but:

 

Top to bottom,

MTH, F3, MP515 Premier

Atlas, F3, MP515 with MTH GP7, Railking

MTH, FT, MP501 Premier 

 

In the nose view you can really see the difference in the MTH and Atlas pilots, MTH are more toy like, much like the Lionel F3 pilot of old.

 

Dan 

 PS: (I am looking for the Atlas MP  B Unit!)

MP 515 1

MP 515 3

MP 515 2

Attachments

Images (3)
  • MP 515 1
  • MP 515 3
  • MP 515 2
Originally Posted by marshelangelo:

  I've been a lover of F3 Locomotives since I was three and I've gathered a small F3 Collection since coming back to O Gauge Trains.  I would like to see the other collections out there..Thanks - MARSHELANGELO

Two pages of great pics guys.  Wouldn't you like to see MARSHELANGELO'S F3's since he started the thread? 

 

I'll post pics of mine once I get a battery for my camera or I'll just use the phone--I'm not looking forward to getting them out of their containers while I wait for paint and carpeting to be done.

 

My "collection" consists of:  (1)   2356 Southern AA postwar (my childhood set in OB's and carton); and repainted SF basket cases in Burlington (red stripe), NP North Coast Limited, and GM&O The Alton Route/Abraham Lincoln that I did a while ago.

 

Carl 

 

 

Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:

K-Line represented here...with a bit of added detail.

 

Bruce

Looks great.  By the way, I sent you, Bruce, an email using the address in your profile and it came up undeliverable.  My email address is in my profile; send me your email address and I'll resend my email.  Thanks.

 

Carl

 Sorry about that, Carl.  Profile with current email updated.

 

Bruce

Bruce, the email address in your profile is the same one I tried earlier, and it again did not work.

 

I'll just ask here:  what detail did you add--handrails,etc.?

 

Carl

Carl,

  While the units came with grab rails by the front and rear doors, below the headlight and at the extreme end of the body, these were simply in black.  Pretty much anything CP painted in the tuscan and grey scheme had the contrasting yellow railing.  I added the grab irons on either side below the number boards as prototypically found on CP's FP7 #1400.  I discovered that CP never had F3's in their roster so I just went with what might have been.  Bent some flat bar stock brass to simulate wind vents on the side glass and added wipers.  A bit of silver and red paint around the fuel filler area,  yellow striping on the air grills by the cab doors and painted the horns grey.  That's it.

 

Bruce

Bruce, thanks for the details.  The engine is a beauty out of the box; you made it better!

 

IMHO, the F3's offered are closer to the prototype F7 than they are to an F3.

 

Carl

I think the grey horn added at the rear is a bit out of scale, I would of went with something similar to the front horns.

Originally Posted by KevinE:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:
Originally Posted by Pingman:
Originally Posted by brwebster:

K-Line represented here...with a bit of added detail.

 

Bruce

Looks great.  By the way, I sent you, Bruce, an email using the address in your profile and it came up undeliverable.  My email address is in my profile; send me your email address and I'll resend my email.  Thanks.

 

Carl

 Sorry about that, Carl.  Profile with current email updated.

 

Bruce

Bruce, the email address in your profile is the same one I tried earlier, and it again did not work.

 

I'll just ask here:  what detail did you add--handrails,etc.?

 

Carl

Carl,

  While the units came with grab rails by the front and rear doors, below the headlight and at the extreme end of the body, these were simply in black.  Pretty much anything CP painted in the tuscan and grey scheme had the contrasting yellow railing.  I added the grab irons on either side below the number boards as prototypically found on CP's FP7 #1400.  I discovered that CP never had F3's in their roster so I just went with what might have been.  Bent some flat bar stock brass to simulate wind vents on the side glass and added wipers.  A bit of silver and red paint around the fuel filler area,  yellow striping on the air grills by the cab doors and painted the horns grey.  That's it.

 

Bruce

Bruce, thanks for the details.  The engine is a beauty out of the box; you made it better!

 

IMHO, the F3's offered are closer to the prototype F7 than they are to an F3.

 

Carl

I think the grey horn added at the rear is a bit out of scale, I would of went with something similar to the front horns.

RS5 with the special anti theft option.

 

Bruce

Add Reply

Post
×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×