Tinplate Beer Reefers

George,

   I do not have any Beer Box Cars, however that is one beautiful Tin Plate Train, the colors are just fantastic.  Almost purchased one a while back myself!

Congrats on fine hunk of TIN!

PCRR/Dave

Thanks Dave!

George, you rascal!!!!  Wonderful beer reefers.  I hope to snag those myself someday!  I'll have to build some myself!

Here is one I am working now.

Dennis,

I like what you have there. There is great potential! Let's see what you can do.

You'll have some unique pieces.

George

More beer reefers, both for the famous "Pilsner Urquell"; left ETS, right Merkur.

Regards

Fred

Since I posted pictures of the various Bing Beer Reefers on an earlier OGR thread I won't re-post here.  Howsomever, I do have a couple of pictures of Fandor Reefers.

Fandor Beer Transport

Fandor Lowenbrau beer

sncf231e posted:

More beer reefers, both for the famous "Pilsner Urquell"; left ETS, right Merkur.

Regards

Fred

Awesome Fred!

Dennis, there you go. Merkur still has these in stock. http://eshop.merkurtoys.cz/category/?cat=2-8-6 You can run them with your Marklin tinplate. There is a Marklin R66/12910 available on eBay right now or you could buy a Merkur engine. ...On second thought, forget I said anything.

George

Robert S. Butler posted:

Since I posted pictures of the various Bing Beer Reefers on an earlier OGR thread I won't re-post here.  Howsomever, I do have a couple of pictures of Fandor Reefers.

Fandor Beer Transport

Fandor Lowenbrau beer

Those are nice.

George S posted:

sncf231e posted:

More beer reefers, both for the famous "Pilsner Urquell"; left ETS, right Merkur.

Regards

Fred

Awesome Fred!

Dennis, there you go. Merkur still has these in stock. http://eshop.merkurtoys.cz/category/?cat=2-8-6 You can run them with your Marklin tinplate. There is a Marklin R66/12910 available on eBay right now or you could buy a Merkur engine. ...On second thought, forget I said anything.

George

Its not a slope, it is a cliff.... I've got an R890 that would be great for the four wheel cars.

Man I completely forgot about the ETS cars I got a while back.  I actuallu already have the Prazdroj car.  Here it is with my Marklin R890 & my roofless Marklin RS900.  The ETS cars almost look a little big with these two small Marklin locos.

Robert S. Butler posted:

Since I posted pictures of the various Bing Beer Reefers on an earlier OGR thread I won't re-post here.  Howsomever, I do have a couple of pictures of Fandor Reefers.

Fandor Beer Transport

Fandor Lowenbrau beer

I've been watching the Lowenbrau car on de ebay for a while.. not sure what is a good price though lol. Plus that crazy shipping.

Marx Iron City Light beer reefer.

George

Well, since you brought it up George - here's one for you - the prototype

Very Nice!

How many did modern Marx make with beer names.I have 5, but dont know for sure,.

George S posted:

Marx Iron City beer reefer.

George

 

Ok, George, now find the ones with white ends, red ends and silver ends

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

George S posted:

Marx Iron City beer reefer.

 

George

 

Ok, George, now find the ones with white ends, red ends and silver ends

Steve

That sounds like work. You are taking the fun out of it. 

George

railroad man posted:

How many did modern Marx make with beer names.I have 5, but dont know for sure,.

So, I see Old Frothingslosh, American, Drewry's, IC Light and Iron City, plus the variations Steve is mentioning. I see pictures of several American variations online alone.

George

George S posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

George S posted:

Marx Iron City beer reefer.

 

George

 

Ok, George, now find the ones with white ends, red ends and silver ends

Steve

That sounds like work. You are taking the fun out of it. 

George

Here, I found them. 

https://ogrforum.com/...odern-marx-beer-cars

George S posted:

George S posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

George S posted:

Marx Iron City beer reefer.

 

George

 

Ok, George, now find the ones with white ends, red ends and silver ends

Steve

That sounds like work. You are taking the fun out of it. 

George

Here, I found them. 

https://ogrforum.com/...odern-marx-beer-cars

Thanks George, those are what I am aware of.

Steve

Thanks for sharing Steve. I don't get out enough to find all of those. I would have never knew they existed. 

I also see that my car is a steel side version vs. some of the others being wood sided with railings. 

George

Ok, I found the MTH Beer sets in the 2008 catalog.  These are what we need to find!  If I remember correctly, they did actually make these sets.  Does anyone know for sure?

Dennis Holler posted:

Ok, I found the MTH Beer sets in the 2008 catalog.  These are what we need to find!  If I remember correctly, they did actually make these sets.  Does anyone know for sure?

I found a dealer who listed the reefer set as in stock as of July 2017. They said they sold it. The Old Frothingslosh, was only issued in that set. My box says the item number is 10-3039A. The "A" means it was an item from a set. The Iron City car sold in November last year on the eBay.au site. Of course, I missed it. I have never seen the Buck or Straub cars. I am only collecting the reefers, so I will leave the tank cars to you. However, I do not know if those were actually made. 

My Three Stooges car is custom. I bought decals from a forum member and made that car. the decals were in somewhat limited supply. You may still be able to get the decals by searching the forum for that thread. I used an MTH LCT Sheffield Farms car, because it did not have plates and lent itself to decals. Stripping it was very difficult, as MTH uses very hard paint.

Unfortunately, in 2008, I did not know what a Lionel tinplate 2800 series car was. I think I was only vaguely familiar with Tinplate Traditions at the time.

George

By the way, I have the Goetz car on pre-order. I actually mistakenly ordered the Goetz car with postwar trucks. So, I may actually have both the tinplate truck version and the postwar truck version on order. If I get both, would someone want the one with postwar trucks? If not, my dealer said he could sell it in his shop.

George

This is what the Goetz car will look like. 

The first rolling stock made in H0 gauge by Fleischmann (Germany) was made with lithographed tinplate bodies. So here is a tinplate beer reefer for Heineken beer (a local Dutch brand that you might not know).

Regards

Fred

That is nice Fred, I like those in ho.  They would be a good mix with my Marklin ho.

George, I also found the Beer tank train seeming available, just need to decide if I want to take the plunge or not.  I'd like to see some close ups of the actual cars but there is practically nothing on the net for them.

I am really hoping the Goetz car is on the way.  I had an MTH rep tell me it was a few weeks ago, but I don't know if it was true or if he was just making me happy so I would leave him alone. lol  I really liked several cars in that catalog such as the Waddel hopper and the 2814R meat reefers.

As a Milwaukee native and Milwaukee Road collector I naturally collect the beer cars associated with the Milwaukee Road's famous "Beer Line". (Note: The Milwaukee Road Historical Association published a great book on the "Beer Line" which can be purchase on their website.) 

https://www.mrha.com/store/pro...e+Road%27s+Beer+Line

MTH and McCoy made several nice Standard Gauge cars based on Milwaukee brewers.  Here's MTH's version of a Schlitz Beer boxcar next to my tinplate version of the Schlitz brewery: 

McCoy also made several nice Standard Gauge reefers of Milwaukee brewers' cars including the Pabst, Schlitz and Miller cars below:

There are others such as the CMC Standard Gauge Pabst beer reefer, which I am currently building from a CMC kit produced/sold in 1974.

Bob Nelson

Anyone know how the Marx IC Light car came about? I was only ever aware of the Pittsburgh Brewing products that MTH was producing. 

A few home made ones

Steve

Gentlemen,

  No matter how much I love Tin Plate, nothing beats the modern Coors Silver Bullet Train.  Once you see one of these Coors Trains run, with the remote control opening doors, and smoke escaping form the refrigerator cooling cars, nothing else comes close.

Now if they made something similar in Tin Plate, that would even top the Coors SB Train.

PCRR/Dave

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

Gentlemen,

  No matter how much I love Tin Plate, nothing beats the modern Coors Silver Bullet Train.  Once you see one of these Coors Trains run, with the remote control opening doors, and smoke escaping form the refrigerator cooling cars, nothing else comes close.

Now if they made something similar in Tin Plate, that would even top the Coors SB Train.

PCRR/Dave

You just need a few cans of paint and a few of Gunrunner John's super smoker boards   Just a weekend project!

Dennis Holler posted:

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

Gentlemen,

  No matter how much I love Tin Plate, nothing beats the modern Coors Silver Bullet Train.  Once you see one of these Coors Trains run, with the remote control opening doors, and smoke escaping form the refrigerator cooling cars, nothing else comes close.

Now if they made something similar in Tin Plate, that would even top the Coors SB Train.

PCRR/Dave

You just need a few cans of paint and a few of Gunrunner John's super smoker boards   Just a weekend project!

Just what you need, another project...

I have not found chrome paint. Have you seen that done successfully?

George

George S posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

Gentlemen,

  No matter how much I love Tin Plate, nothing beats the modern Coors Silver Bullet Train.  Once you see one of these Coors Trains run, with the remote control opening doors, and smoke escaping form the refrigerator cooling cars, nothing else comes close.

Now if they made something similar in Tin Plate, that would even top the Coors SB Train.

PCRR/Dave

You just need a few cans of paint and a few of Gunrunner John's super smoker boards   Just a weekend project!

Just what you need, another project...

I have not found chrome paint. Have you seen that done successfully?

George

I’d try Bare Metal Foil or chrome Mylar used by RC plane guys.

Steve

George S posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

Gentlemen,

  No matter how much I love Tin Plate, nothing beats the modern Coors Silver Bullet Train.  Once you see one of these Coors Trains run, with the remote control opening doors, and smoke escaping form the refrigerator cooling cars, nothing else comes close.

Now if they made something similar in Tin Plate, that would even top the Coors SB Train.

PCRR/Dave

You just need a few cans of paint and a few of Gunrunner John's super smoker boards   Just a weekend project!

Just what you need, another project...

I have not found chrome paint. Have you seen that done successfully?

George

Take a look at ALSA's Killer Chrome kits available in brush or spray

https://alsacorp.com/

https://alsacorp.com/killer-chrome/

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Al...KC-KCH-Kit/204171696

George S posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

Gentlemen,

  No matter how much I love Tin Plate, nothing beats the modern Coors Silver Bullet Train.  Once you see one of these Coors Trains run, with the remote control opening doors, and smoke escaping form the refrigerator cooling cars, nothing else comes close.

Now if they made something similar in Tin Plate, that would even top the Coors SB Train.

PCRR/Dave

You just need a few cans of paint and a few of Gunrunner John's super smoker boards   Just a weekend project!

Just what you need, another project...

I have not found chrome paint. Have you seen that done successfully?

George

You my friend are 100% correct.  I need no more projects!

Here is an update on the Lionel 1719 boxcar with paper sides, still copies of the old Bing reefer.  I'll work something different up when I get time.  The roof paint is Rustoleum Kona Brown.  Might be good on some passenger car roofs.

Last is  the beginings of a prototype tinplate reefer.  Sorry it is in brass cause that is what I had around from some other long lost project.  Sides are .015"  Will have opening doors like the Bing reefer.  It's about the size of an old Scale-craft reefer, sides are 2.25" tall and about 10-1/4" long.  Currently with late prewar trucks.

Now, if only Ohio Art Company would respond to my sign request... we might get somewhere...

Ohio Art...(Etch-A-Sketch) we shear metal for them sometimes....looking good Dennis.

Do you know how thick their signs are?  Be nice if they were about .015 or so like the old Lionel tin cars. Any thicker and it would be a real pita to work with.  I was thinking I could get about 5-6 car sides on one of their larger signs and then I have a buddy with a cnc plasma cutter.  ( Laser would be better, but use what you got, besides they would be more prototypes).  Probably won't pan out, but it is fun to try and work through.