we shear raw plate for them, but not very often.no idea the thickness.
I just received this in today's mail from Gene's Train Shop (AKA Grand Central Station) in Kearny, NJ. Not only is it a beer reefer, it's my first tinplate car of any kind. Gene doesn't have a website but his shop was listed on the MTH site so I phoned in the order. Very nice guy.
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beachhead2 posted:
I just received this in today's mail from Gene's Train Shop (AKA Grand Central Station) in Kearny, NJ. Not only is it a beer reefer, it's my first tinplate car of any kind. Gene doesn't have a website but his shop was listed on the MTH site so I phoned in the order. Very nice guy.
Is that Standard Gauge 500 series? I collect 200 series cars, and have an Altoona in 200 series. I would buy the Bud if it was 200 series. Starting another collection of STD cars it not in my plans right now.
George
pretty sure that is a 200 series car. Seems like most of the std beer cars are 200 series with only a few that are 500 series... There are some neat ones they have produced.
It's 200 Series.
So from my 1st tinplate post I know a little about 600 series and 800 series cars (Thanks to my fellow forum members)...where do the 200 series come in?.....either way that beer car it beautiful....will that run on my O-Gauge layout????
200 and 500 series are Standard Gauge so no they won't run on an O-gauge layout. 200's are bigger than 500's but both Std. Gauge.
200 & 500 series are both Standard gauge which is bigger than 0 gauge. Std is 2-1/8" between the rails and 0 is 1-1/4" for reference. 200 & 500 are large and smaller cars like the 800 & 600 series in 0. So not it will not run on your 0 track. But some guys modify track to have both sets of outer rails with a common center rail.
Don't want to get off topic here but need some clarification. 2600 and 2800 cars will run in O gauge track. 200 and 500 are all Standard gauge as well as 600 and 800 series cars. Am I that off or getting close???
200 and 500 series cars are standard gauge. 200s are the bigger guys.
Wow! Those are some neat cars. Makes me want to get down my beer can collection. I have 2 Olde Frothingslosh, and an Iron City with the ‘76 Super Bowl champs Steelers on it. And about 300 others. I always liked the Schmidt beer cans with the wildlife scenes on them. That is a Minnesota beer. Be cool to see beer reefers with those murals on them.
William 1 posted:200 and 500 series cars are standard gauge. 200s are the bigger guys.
Wow! Those are some neat cars. Makes me want to get down my beer can collection. I have 2 Olde Frothingslosh, and an Iron City with the ‘76 Super Bowl champs Steelers on it. And about 300 others. I always liked the Schmidt beer cans with the wildlife scenes on them. That is a Minnesota beer. Be cool to see beer reefers with those murals on them.
It would be real cool, could be a set of different scenes like the various Santa Fe map reefers 
Joeceleb posted:Don't want to get off topic here but need some clarification. 2600 and 2800 cars will run in O gauge track. 200 and 500 are all Standard gauge as well as 600 and 800 series cars. Am I that off or getting close???
Yes, 2600 & 2800 are essentially the 600 & 800 but with automatic box couplers so in effect later versions. All those are 0.
Talking std, 200 & 500 like said above, small passenger cars are 300 series, and the larger ones are 400 series.
We're trying to generalize it and keep the description short so there are some smaller different rules out there, but you can pick those up as you go. Need to get a pic of all those next to each other for your reference.
Dennis Holler posted:pretty sure that is a 200 series car. Seems like most of the std beer cars are 200 series with only a few that are 500 series... There are some neat ones they have produced.
Shoot! Now I need to buy that one. I think it is from 2007.
George S posted:Dennis Holler posted:pretty sure that is a 200 series car. Seems like most of the std beer cars are 200 series with only a few that are 500 series... There are some neat ones they have produced.
Shoot! Now I need to buy that one. I think it is from 2007.
George, you might try that same guy where I bought mine. Gene's Train Shop in Kearny, NJ. I didn't ask him if he had another.
George, have you got the Burpo 214 beer car?
Dennis Holler posted:George, have you got the Burpo 214 beer car?
I guess I have a lot of work to do...
lol, I don't have any of them. Guess I need to sell some other stuff.
JOECELEB,
600/2600 & 800/2800 Series Tin Plate Rolling Stock/Cars are both O Gauge, not Standard Gauge.
PCRR/Dave
On the outside Front 2nd level behind the WWI rail fencing, 600/2600 series O Gauge Tin Plate rolling stock.
1st level 800/2800 Series Rolling Stock, except the 600/2660 Small Crane Car, all still O Gauge Rolling Stock.
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George S posted:Dennis Holler posted:pretty sure that is a 200 series car. Seems like most of the std beer cars are 200 series with only a few that are 500 series... There are some neat ones they have produced.
Shoot! Now I need to buy that one. I think it is from 2007.
George, There are two 200 series A-B reefers. The reefer from 2007 is MTH 10-2181 Tinplate Traditions car that looks remarkably like my A-B reefer except it doesn't have the extra trim piece under the roof edge that says "Lionel Ventilated Refrigerator" (see my pic from earlier). Mine is a MTH 11-30108 from the 2011 LCT catalog. So if you want to be a completist, you'll need to get both! 
Looks like I will be getting another beer reefer soon, this time from Merkur. I think this one is from the original production prior to 1968. This is the sellers photo, very nice guy. He had quite a few other cars but this one was the only one that called out to me. Maybe Fred or Daniel could date it some. I have not seen any Merkur catalogs uploaded for reference on line. I will be curious to see its relative size compared to other cars such as the ETS wagons.
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Your Merkur reefer is certainly from the earlier production, but post-war.
In his book on the history of model-trains by Ludvik Losos (a Czech) is mentioned that in 1947 the Merkur production was started again and: Der Fuhrpark der zweiachsigen Wagen wurde überdies um einen Bierkühlwagen mit der Werbeaufschrift "Prazdroj" (Pilsner Urquell) ergänzt. (The fleet of two-axle cars was also supplemented by a beer refrigerator with the advertising slogan "Prazdroj" (Pilsner Urquell).).
Thank you Fred. Interesting that you mentioned the book as in passing a few emails back and forth with the fellow I bought this car from (I think he is in Austria), he mentioned that same book and was nice enough to send me a few scanned pages. In this one you can see the Prazdroj reefer. I think I paid more than a new one costs, but hey, it is in good shape and he was already shipping me some other cars I won in an auction so I figured might as well. I might start a thread on that for anyone interested.
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George S posted:Here are pictures of my beer reefers. I didn't want to clog up the weekend thread. Feel free to post your beer reefer pictures too!
George
Awesome George! Did not realize all of these existed, especially the stooges!!
He made the Stooges car with decals from another forum member. The other cars were made in 2007 abd 2008. Very hard to find. George out bid me on the Olde Frothingslosh. Think I was bidding on the other two as well.
I would LOVE to buy a Stooges car. Maybe there's a market?
Dennis Holler posted:Think I was bidding on the other two as well.
Nah, the other two were "Buy it Now". The guy made me pay two times list price plus shipping for them. I think he accepted an offer for one, and I got $20 off.
George
Ok there you go. I thought I had bid on some long ago. Either it was not against you or I am mis-remembering which is entirely possible! 
Just have to keep looking...
Here we go again. My Merkur Prazdroj beer car finally showed up. Last photo for size reference against a Lionel 2814R.
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That's awesome!
Pilsner Urquell is consistently rated as one of the top five beers of the Western World. The Czechs actually consume more bier per capita than the Germans! Pilsner Urquell is MY bier of choice, and that Merkur reefer is not bad either!
NOTE: Since the Pilsner Urquell Brewery started using BROWN bottles and instituted cold shipping, the Pilsner Urquell in the US tastes fresher and has the full Saaz hops flavor. Of course it is even better on tap!
Dennis Holler posted:Do you know how thick their signs are? Be nice if they were about .015 or so like the old Lionel tin cars. Any thicker and it would be a real pita to work with. I was thinking I could get about 5-6 car sides on one of their larger signs and then I have a buddy with a cnc plasma cutter. ( Laser would be better, but use what you got, besides they would be more prototypes). Probably won't pan out, but it is fun to try and work through.
Dennis - gotta tell you, I had some .040" steel parts cut via waterjet - WOW. Some holes were only .070, and they come out round, no edge effects, just fantastic. I know the Hojack is using water jet for the sheet metal bodies of the new CMT cars as well. Precision is down to less than a couple of thousandths on all features. Can't believe how nice they come out. Local metal supplier has .050" aluminum as well, that stuff should cut like BUDDAH.
And very inexpensive, especially if you are doing some quantity (once set up, the machine makes short work of sheet metal.
Jim
Jim Waterman posted:Dennis Holler posted:Do you know how thick their signs are? Be nice if they were about .015 or so like the old Lionel tin cars. Any thicker and it would be a real pita to work with. I was thinking I could get about 5-6 car sides on one of their larger signs and then I have a buddy with a cnc plasma cutter. ( Laser would be better, but use what you got, besides they would be more prototypes). Probably won't pan out, but it is fun to try and work through.
Dennis - gotta tell you, I had some .040" steel parts cut via waterjet - WOW. Some holes were only .070, and they come out round, no edge effects, just fantastic. I know the Hojack is using water jet for the sheet metal bodies of the new CMT cars as well. Precision is down to less than a couple of thousandths on all features. Can't believe how nice they come out. Local metal supplier has .050" aluminum as well, that stuff should cut like BUDDAH.
And very inexpensive, especially if you are doing some quantity (once set up, the machine makes short work of sheet metal.
Jim
Jim, might have to check that out. The only reason I was thinking plasma was that a buddy at work a cnc plasma with a 4x4 table and it is cleaner than I thought. Still a little to clean up on the edges but nice otherwise. Do you think the jet is cheaper to farm out than the laser cutting?
i picked up this Bing car (frame marked BW - Bing Werks) in an odd lot years ago thinking i would give it to the owners of a local German restaurant until they p***ed me off. not even sure it's a reefer, but interesting looking and not in bad shape. #1 gauge if i hadn't mentioned it.
cheers...gary
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Any other Pilsner Urquell quaffers here?
The locally grown high quality barley and the famous Saaz hops plus the proprietory yeast make this golden Pilsner the world's finest!
George S posted:Robert S. Butler posted:Since I posted pictures of the various Bing Beer Reefers on an earlier OGR thread I won't re-post here. Howsomever, I do have a couple of pictures of Fandor Reefers.
Fandor Beer Transport
Fandor Lowenbrau beer
Those are nice.
I have the 8-wheel version of the Bier Transport.
This cleaner version was recently offered on the Bay @ 70.00
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Tinplate Art posted:Any other Pilsner Urquell quaffers here?
Only when I go to Czech Republic. Its really good there.
ROB: We have a German style bier garden in our Nashville neighborhood (Germantown) that has Pilsner Urquell on tap! As I mentioned above, going to brown bottles and cold shipping has resulted in a more stable and enjoyable product. If you traveled to the Czech Republic in the days when the fermenters were large OAK vats, drinkers swore that was the best Pilsner ever!
I like that...didn't (but should have ) know Mike had made those.
