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@Fatman posted:

@Mallard4468  Very Flattering However sadly my days of long international air travel are pretty much behind me these days , although something like York would probably be the very thing to tempt me

However due to a particularly nasty motorcycle Vs Semi-trailer event at over 100 kph over a decade ago I am now of limited funds and limited physical mobility , So while a trip like that would be amazing on the intellectual and mental side of things, it would be pretty debilitating for the physical side Not to mention 24 hours in a plane seat with limited options for physical adjustment etc would pretty much put me in bed for a week after getting there LOL!!

I am actually a Disability Pensioner eeking a living out of a meagre pension, I am extremely fortunate however to have had the means prior to my accident to have been able to buy my home outright ( downsizing and becoming far more rural from the home I was paying off at the time of my accident ) and no there was no huge settlement ( bugger!)

I live fairly frugally however so I do manage to have a few $$'s now and then to indulge my collecting So it is not all doom and gloom

This might also explain why I get excited over rusty pieces of crap that most serious collectors wouldnt even think of buying LOL! ... Its cos I can afford those ones! And the History is the same for each piece , just not the commercial resale value ,.... in fact the beat up one tells me it was loved and used as intended , so for the joy it brought several generations it is all that much richer in my eye

Anyway I think Frenchy ( @FRENCHTRAINS) The "Tinman-ator" ( @Arne ) Mr Kelly Evans ( @Jim Kelly-Evans )   or Fantastic Fred ( @sncf231e ) and half a dozen more I havent listed would give a far better talk than I would !

( and probably MUCH better looking doing it ! )

Sorry to hear, but glad that you can still play with trains.

One of the reasons I haven't yet been to Australia or NZ is the brutal plane trip, so I get it.

If you ever decide to try, they do rent power chairs at York.

@G-Man24 posted:

Moving the contents from one storage facility to another is an arduous task, but the silver lining is I get to see stuff I haven't seen in years. Hmm what's in that big box over there..?..Hey it's that 140L tunnel I bought 20 years ago!

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After seeing it again I decided to bring it home for a day and take a few pictures so I could contribute to the Tinplate Show and Tell. This is one of the few Standard Gage items I can say I "scored" on over the years. I spotted it as part of an antique doll and dollhouse auction and those folks had no interest in it at all. I don't recall exactly what I paid but I ended up getting it for the opening bid price which made it a real bargain.

Offered from 1927-1932, Greenberg's Guide to Lionel Trains describes the 140L as follows: Standard or O Gage, steel construction 90 degree curve with embossed stone portals. Hand painted to represent wooded mountain with seven chalet-style houses, waterfall passing under fence, road and snow capped peak in shades of gray, green, red and yellow. 37" by 24-1/2" by 20" high, illuminated with one bulb inside each portal.





Thanks for providing such a detailed 'show and tell'.  That's a beautiful piece.  You were indeed fortunate to find it in a non-train auction.

Maybe it's just my imagination, but it seems like they've just started appearing at York in the past 4 or 5 years.  Since I only "touch with my eyes", I always assumed that they were made of plaster and/or glued cloth.  I should have paid more attention to my Greenberg book.  I was never interested, since it seemed too fragile to survive the long ride home - maybe I'll take a closer look next time I see one.

@Fatman, sorry to hear about your physical condition.  I have only been to York once in the past 20 years. And yup, the members hall was filled with older tin. 

If you ever do manage to take the big trip to the states, be sure to let folks know.   I am sure as a group we could help arrange whatever services you need.

I hope to make to Australia someday, and maybe ride behind a Garratt locomotive!

@Fatman posted:

Oh and P.S. Daniel ... I hate you for having such gorgeous rheostats and trains to go with them !



Sorry, but..... if you are in need of one I  can find one here, they are not so rare as they have been used during a long time period, JEP ones are the most common. And the price will be a friend price, I am just afraid that postage to Australia would be much more than the price of a rheostat,

Daniel

Fatman like JHZ 563 sorry to hear about your accident and condition.  However, if you ever do decide to try to make a US trip, you can count of me as well to help where we can.  Like you I am a modest investor, so please keep posting your finds as they are right in my principal area of interest.

Gman24 - that is one incredible tunnel, never have even seen one before.  what a find!

Today, I can't decide whether to post in this area or in the one for Marx trains as I have some vintage Marx tinplate.  So I will do some of both.  For the Holiday, my family located a gift for me that I think is rather outstanding.  It is one very unusual Marx set from the middle 1950's.  It is set 4345 which contained TWO Trains, one freight and one passenger.  This one is nearly LN and it even has the packing slip still in the box.  I will post the passenger consist here and more detailed pictures of the entire set in the Marx Trains post.

This is the passenger set, the 6" Bogota type cars with their "new"  (in 1954)  silver lightweight lithography for NYC .

Marx 4345 set 6 Passenger cars close up

I will post pictures of the rest of the set in the Marx trains post.

Best wishes

Don

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Sorry, but..... if you are in need of one I  can find one here, they are not so rare as they have been used during a long time period, JEP ones are the most common. And the price will be a friend price, I am just afraid that postage to Australia would be much more than the price of a rheostat,

Daniel

OOOhhhh ! Thanks for the offer Daniel .. if you do find one sometime at what you think a fair turnover I would be most interested I have a friend in the Netherlands who can forward stuff on to me , I get a decent sized box sent over every 3-6 months from him with goodies ... I think post from him is like 50Euro for a 4-5 kilo box , which is a BIG improvement on normal Eu post , France seems to be around 28-32Euro + for one loco to here  from most "ePay" sellers so even paying for Post to Pays Bas ( Netherlands ) is a saving overall !

No rush on finding one at all though , just if you come across one at too good a price to argue

Thanks again !

I am a little scared , my tinplate family ... for it has been yet another week without anything new train tinplate acquired ! ... This is not for lack of trying as there have been some marvellous pieces come up locally but on every occasion my meagre resources has not been enough to have them come home with me , and some still sold at absolute bargain prices .. just I could only commit what I had .. it pained me to see a Hornby Metropolitan go for about one third to half its current worth to a guy who had $5 available more than me at the time LOL! C'est La Vie as they say

I did however add to the clockwork tin boat collection with a super bargain Chein & Sons tinplate clockwork shark! Local seller had it packaged with a few cheapy early chinese toys with a buy it now price of ...$25 ! ( about 18-19USD) so it came to me quick smart lol .. couldnt hit the button fast enough!

So as I have nothing new and exciting train wise ... I thought I would turn the clock back a little and delve deep into the collection photos and present the very first Clockwork train, the one that started all this madness... I remember being bored on ePay one day and thinking ..."You know ... I never had a train set as a kid .. What the heck lets see whats out there" ... Now I have always loved older mechanical things , just something about the cleverness and ingenuity that went into turning the inanimate into something with a bit of "life" about it

Anyway my eyes saw this beat up old Hornby set and it was cheap as chips so what the heck !

Who would have ever predicted it would lead to today LOL !

So the auction pics of the thing that started all this madness for me

A couple of rusty MO locomotives , horrible condition carriages , but a goodly amount of track !

And that , as one might say , begat the descent into madness!!!

Hi tinplate fans...my input today is really limited since I am traveling (yes by air) dual masked, sitting as far away from anyone that I can, etc...However, I noted Fatman's picture of his original purchase of Hornby M0 clockwork trains.  So as a quick add to what he posted, here is my M0 loco.  Its of the original 1930 vintage, no cylinders or drive rods and the number 6100 on the tender.  This is the red livery, but it came in green as well.  Cylinders and rods were a later addition.

Here is the loco and the 6100 tender

Hornby M0 loco

Here are the coaches, two in this set.  "JOAN and ZENA".  These are also in their 1930 (first) configuration.

Hornby M0 coach, JOAN

Hornby M0 coach, ZENA

Fatman, interestingly enough, this set was my first Hornby acquisition as a train set.  I had 2-3 cars but no loco's and no track etc.  So we share that in common.

Don

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Speaking of first train buy, mine is also a HORNBY model and it is the most common one as the production has been very extensive around 1955-60. Of course I paid a little too much for it but lesson learned.

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Difficult to imagine "paying too much" for a complete set in that condition that has such a crisp box. I'm guessing there are very few sets in that condition. The cost will seem irrelevant very soon.

Speaking of first train buy, mine is also a HORNBY model and it is the most common one as the production has been very extensive around 1955-60. Of course I paid a little too much for it but lesson learned.

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Nice Hornby set, Daniel! While not my first train purchase, I was fortunate to acquire this nice set about ten years ago.

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Two sets in such beautiful condition - sad that those lucky kids hardly played with them.

Wow...Daniel and Jim Kelley Evans...what beautiful sets !.  Thanks for posting.  I note that the picture on Daniel's set is much closer to the contents, Jim the picture on your set box is really dynamic and of course the engine pictured is steam while the set is electric or box cab diesel.  Toy train manufacturers, American included, had no trouble exaggerating the contents on their set box pictures.  Neither one of my M0 sets, either French or UK came with a box lid, so I am not able to determine what sort of picture they might have had.  Anyway, great stuff.

Steve you certainly show some of the most impossible sets to assemble, thank you.  A Seaboard A-B-A plus 3 coaches and an observation all in the green/yellow livery.  WOW...those are really hard to come by for sure.

Regards

Don

The 1927 American Flyer Wide Gauge President's Special has to be one of the most spectacular tinplate sets ever offered. The lithography is exceptional and the color scheme is stunning.



Very nice. I like the front and rear articulated platforms on that locomotive.

I also like that pale green color you painted your layout board , it plays well with all the old tinplate colors.

I'm curious as to what this accessory is, I notice you have several of them :



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A complete set from JEP. those cars have been made during a long time, they saw the light in 1936 and the ones below are the latest ones made dating from the fifties; changes have been made on bogies and couplers. They where representatives of high speed trains in France and where pulled by the famous CC7100 who had the world speed record in that time.

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Have a nice weekend, Daniel

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