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Here's one for all of you who are more knowledgeable about tinplate than I. We have a Lionel train set that has been handed down to us through the family .I think most of the items were just a collection of odds and ends to make up the set.I notice the 1689T tender has a tinplate truck to hook up to the engine and a staple end truck with the postwar type coupler. Do you think that it came that way from the factory ? This may be from  a time of transition from the prewar to postwar. The engine is No. 1684.100_2747100_2744100_2743100_2740100_2742

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  • 100_2747: This is the tender and original box
  • 100_2744: The set box has seen better days but the label is intact.
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  • 100_2742: here is a shot of the trucks
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1689W or 1689T would be the correct tender, however, the rear truck on yours looks like it is from Japanese manufacturer Sakai or post war Lionel. Was probably modified to accept the later knuckle coupler consists. I believe the original 1689s and even 2689s would have had one of the several styles of latch coupler.

The rear truck is a "Staple End" truck, which dates from 1945 first use, which makes it Postwar, not Prewar.  The tender should have had the same trucks with journal covers both front and back.  The 1684 came out in 1950-1942.  The tenders mated with the 1684 were 1689, 2689, or 2666T, with the first two with or without whistles. The only possibility to identify the set # 8068 would come from a Greenberg book on Prewar sets, and the latest listing I saw had a price tag at $154 for the book.

The consist for the 1684 from three sets I saw listed were one Passenger set, 1630, 1630, & 1631; (1) freight w/ 2677, 2679, 2682; (2) freight w/2679, 2680, & 2682, none of which have a set number 8068.  Your set was most likely something that was put together from pieces, and more than likely had a consist of Postwar pulled behind it, because of the "Staple end truck" from Postwar.

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