Trinkle-Trains SD70ACe EMD Demos

 I have heard a lot of good things about the Loksound decoders. I had a XL hooked up to a G scale engine and was impressed with the sounds. I had it hooked up with a NCE decoder on the motors because of the large draw. At the time, I couldn't figure out hot to configure the XL decoder to work alone. So, I chose to go with MTH for easier programming for me.

 I believe you'll be very happy with all the extra sounds and the overall quality. I hope he can get the right speakers as you posted, in there for full range. I look forward to seeing these puppies in all their glory!

 

Joe,

You should know about the challenges...you're building an SD70ACe from the ground up!  I hear ya that it will be a challenge to fit in all the DCC (especially speakers with full range-we all need more bass) to meet to our expectations...the task is beyond me so I called in the best with DCCTRAIN...if Alex can't do it, I think it can't be done...he has installed DCC in just about everything from mice-sized N Scale to monster-sized G Scale...and he has videos of all his installations on Youtube.  I want to see YOUR final SD70ACe...isn't it a G Scale engine?  I'll bet anything DCC can fit in that!

Rick

Oh yeah!!

You rule Rick!!!

Joe,

Those look phenomenal.  Seriously they look just great like factory to include the finish!  How many hours in something like the build of the SD70ACe?  I have to do a cab and radiator section for an upcoming project in the summer...just wondering what it takes?  Awesome!

Rick

 

Thanks Erik...but the real trick is in the new DCC install from DCCTRAIN.  Alex has to build to a new standard to handle the higher electrical loading of multiple unit (MU) train operations in O Scale.  I got the LokSoundXL boards as they are rated to handle higher sustained loads.  I will use an ECoS ESU Command Station to control the layout with transpondering...but that ECoS system will also need to be upgraded to the new higher load standard.  I'm afraid all we have right now is a beautiful picture of 2 engines on the install track.  He emailed me tonight to tell me he was cutting into them this evening...it begins!  But I have faith in Alex that his skills and vast history of past installations and electrical/digital experience (especially with European systems like ECoS LokSound) will pull us through to a great functional DCC layout approach! : )

 

You guys are forging a new era in O scale. The founders of a new genre of technique and precedent. A John Allen perhaps- keep thinking past the bun and into a new better way to operate and bring reality to the King of Scales

 I can't stand the wait. Are they done yet!!

Rick was at our COSM meeting last night and the buzz was alive in the layout room about them!!

We need to get a video of them in action when complete

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You're killing me Erik!

 

Are these yours? Amazing units, can't wait to see the installation and the finished products.

I don't mean to sound like a redneck, but are the windshields in these units made from real glass? They look SO good!

YEAH!!

Rick did you know he posted this!?
awesome Santiago thanks for sharing

Wow

       


       



Yes-

Holy.....

it takes two minutes for the UP train full of reefers to pass the camera in his video. WOW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK9Yl6f22ig

The units are mine...glad you like'em...I chose them for this brand new DCC install

since they are Demos and we are doing a demo of a new DCC install.  I think they will look great in Alex's videos of them getting the install by DCCTRAIN

and of them running when Alex does the final video.  The windshields are a plastic sheet that OMI uses to great effect!

Rick Trinkle

Trinkle-Trains

 

EMD SD70ACe Demo #GM73 before it left my (Colorado) Denver Division's makeshift North Yard.  #GM73 had quite the trip to Cincinnati to meet up with Brethren Demo Unit #GM70 (from California) in early December of last year.  Both DCC bound! : )

Nice Joe!

Rick

Wow Joe,

You really impress the dickens out of me. Amazing what you do with these. Santiago and Pitogo also do fine stuff.

Wow Joe is right. Why didn't you fix those freaking handrails and that hideous out of scale plow and fix those steps which are all wrong. Do I need to go on! ! !

That is why Mth is the bottom of 2 rail. Even Atlas Master line is better than that with their china drive. How dare anyone compare the same mth locomotive with a state of the art brass locomotive. Come on guys where is the common sense here? If you're going to "scrab" something together then why stop so short, please don't scrap it together. No offense Joe, but you're better than that!!!!

Stephen

"Cringe" :-/




       

Good grief...

 

Jeff C

I have seen Joe do some amazing things here, but when one compares a locomotive to one of a higher standard, one expects them to become fairly comparable and looks to see how close the model has become to that higher standard. Joe, the postive side is that you did the model some justice, I will hand you that!

Stephen

Yeah, I expected that. It was wrong to post here in the first place. Rick asked about the scratch builds and I hogged the whole post. I would not expect an engine that cost me a few dollars to be what you guys want. I was just showing that I had one.

 I will get rid of the posts here to keep on subject of these beautiful brass models. I do respect the quality of their detailing!

Yes, please tell me what I can't see. I need to know everything that offends you! Apparently every 2 rail post belongs to .......

It is very funny. You contacted me asking for spare pilots that you say are what?wrong?? why would you want them. Don't waste my time. I have eyes.

Sorry you took your MTH picture down. I found it interesting to see how a model costing around 75% less (with some detailing) compared to the state-of-the art,  as I don't have a budget for the brass. But hey, I can console myself by noticing that the MTH knuckle dusters are better scale 3D representations than OMI's somewhat flat etchings.    

Uhhh boy....

Joe - I'm sorry you took down the post.  For any number of reasons high end brass isn't in the cards for everyone. I hope this site doesn't become the exclusive domain of brass collectors. Some people apparently need to be reminded how to behave when a guest in someone else's "house".  Critique the model - not the modeler.

 

Ed Rappe

Joe,

 

I think I can speak for most of us--we were enjoying your posts and pictures of your models. 

 

Speaking only for myself, I often open threads solely because I see that you've posted, and I've learned a ton from studying the pictures you've put up.

 

Don't let one idiot's comments keep you from posting...

 

Jeff C

 

Thank you. I just think I overstepped the post and went too far. I do not take the words of someone I don't respect to heart anyways. I hope I'm bigger than that!

 These are state of the art models and deserve respect. Who ever owns one, does not gain that respect automatically.

 Ed, you sound like one heck of a guy. I do respect 3/4s of the posters on this forum.  There's always personality conflicts and the freedom of being stupid in public. I need to step back sometimes and just watch for fun!

Thanks all!

OGR has a fantastic tool to help with problems. I am using it more and more.

You've blocked this member.

 

Me too!

Put it back up!!! The brass snobs can just close their eyes if it hurts them so bad. ;-)

Here here put it back!!!



       

I use it often.

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I don't think it is now fair to MTH for something that is just made from spare parts. I really don't think it's fair to OMI to have all these distractions in this post. I hope Rick will make a new post when they're done. Again, I went too far off by hogging the post and I'm re-reading everything, only to see it's happening again!

 I did own a OMI product and loved the detail. I owned the Locksound XL decoder and loved the sounds! We all choose the level of modeling we desire and can afford. Some of us are more willing to make higher sacrifices to our lifestyle and toy train budget.

 Someone else posted that he'd rather have one great model, than many poor ones. I feel sorry that he can't enjoy what I consider to be a well done model at a great price.  

 I won't run without sound. I feel that it's as important as add on detailing. I love the basis of this post to bring these models into the current sound technology that's readily available to all.

 BTW, I do own some brass steamers. Although the detailing is very nice, I feel they are too fragile for this household. Our grandkids are allowed to play with our toys and not the brass steamers.

I also enjoy your posts Joe, your work and your models are icing on the cake...keep em' coming. 

Joe: I strongly implore that your repost your project on its own thread so that it gets the attention that it DOES deserve. One thing for sure, you and I are alike in that we are passionate about our trains. Stephen

There's something personal about building a piece of equipment. I never realized it until on another forum, I was cut down by some simple comment from a rude person about my build. We had a past history of disrespect so it wasn't a shock. It has left me with a touchy trigger finger about posting.

 Hey, you put your stuff out there and it doesn't all come back positive, right? I try to stay positive with posts to others and expect it to be a standard in a public forum. Nothing that terrible was said here, just a difference of standards I guess. What I believe is good, is not what everyone does. I just expect honest comments and the bad is OK if it's honest.

 We should stay on topic and be honest. To that end, I apologize to all OGR here. I used Rick's statement to bring other stuff in for comment. The basis for this post, should be about adding to a already state of the art model to make it the gold standard. For me, it is lacking an operating dimension, sound.

 

Joe,

 

I really appreciate a great modeling effort.

Whether its done by a company or an individual, the result of ardent research and patient execution can really pull a person in.  Your result does that for me and Overland models can do that for me.

 

But one of a kind scratch builds can't be compared to any production runs...its apples and oranges.  Different processes, materials, capabilities, sacrifices.  The important thing for you is that you did it! 

 

In the end, a modeler always spends the time and talent to scratch build or the financial outlay to get a limited production run made (brass or plastic) for one thing - they want an exceptional, well-executed, scale prototype model to exist- for them.  We do this for ourselves and share with others.  Regardless of the sharing outcome we are fulfilled as modelers.

 

We are few and far between in 2Rail O Scale... we need to revel in our hobby, stay focused on our goals using our chosen production or procurement path and to continue to share our skills and abilities to produce radically accurate models.  That's exciting! That's a pursuit worth doing!

 

 

 

In the end, a modeler always spends the time and talent to scratch build or the financial outlay to get a limited production run made (brass or plastic) for one thing - they want an exceptional, well-executed, scale prototype model to exist- for them.  We do this for ourselves and share with others.  Regardless of the sharing outcome we are fulfilled as modelers.

 

We are few and far between in 2Rail O Scale... we need to revel in our hobby, stay focused on our goals using our chosen production or procurement path and to continue to share our skills and abilities to produce radically accurate models.  That's exciting! That's a pursuit worth doing!

Well stated!  Right On!