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Anyone else see last nites episode.  Herb, a known model train buff has a scene where he is standing inside a fully landscaped HO layout.  The layout is very well done.  Above him running around on a shelf layout near the ceiling is a three rail train.

 

Herb'e wife Judith has left him so he is lamenting that not only is he lonely but compounding it is that most model railroaders are loners.  At that point my darling wife shoots me the "I told you so" look.

 

Not a good PR statement on model railroaders but at least there was some airtime of the hobby on a national TV show.

 

Please no bashing of the show, just comments on the layout and the perception of model railroading presented.

 

 

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The layout was very nicely done, for sure.  As an added touch, all the walls and even the door to the room were painted a natural looking sky blue.  The comments made in the dialog would certainly upset a number of folks in the hobby (we tend to be overly sensitive and defensive), but some of them were pretty much spot-on.

 

Actually, I should get "Herb" to switch to O gauge and do some "Rail Tales" features for the magazine since he seemed to have a good many made-up stories for the little people inhabiting his layout.  

Originally Posted by Johnny Winkler:

It starts out when Herb and Charlie...

The episode referred to at the start of this tread is an entirely new one.  No "Charlie" involved...just "Herb" and "Allen."  The trains portion runs for quite a few minutes.

 

Here's a link to the full episode (complete with commercials, of course).  Train segment is about halfway through, as I recall::

 

http://www.cbs.com/shows/two_and_a_half_men/video/

Last edited by Allan Miller
Originally Posted by Allan Miller:
Originally Posted by Johnny Winkler:

It starts out when Herb and Charlie...

The episode referred to at the start of this tread is an entirely new one.  No "Charlie" involved...just "Herb" and "Allen."  The trains portion runs for quite a few minutes.

 

Here's a link to the full episode (complete with commercials, of course).  Train segment is about halfway through, as I recall::

 

http://www.cbs.com/shows/two_and_a_half_men/video/

Sadly no Judith?

Sometimes, when my married life has not being going well, I get a very lonely feeling and can't stand being by myself, in my train room.

 

For me, that intensifies the feeling/sense of being lonely... cut off from the  rest of the world.

 

I'll take a good relationship or friendship any day, over model trains.

 

I seem to only really enjoy my trains, when I'm feeling secure, re: the important relationships in life.

 

 

Rick

 

I stumbled upon that same episode last night.  Don't usually watch that show, especially the post-Charlie Sheen episodes, but since this episode was one of those that feature Ryan Stiles I thought I would sit through it since he was one of my favorite performers in the "Whose Line is it Anyway?" comedy show.  Pretty cool-looking layout, my wife agreed too.  Sorry to say but I think some of the stereotyping associated with Ryan's character does indeed seem appropriate, but I thought it was still funny.

 

All the same, I'll take Big Bang Theory any day over Two and a Half Men.  At least Sheldon's a train nut too, and likewise I think his personality in that show also perpetuates certain stereotypes towards our hobby as well, sometimes to a fitting T. 

I saw it last night. Thought it was kinda demeaning, but then you have to consider the source -- written by someone who based the character on some stereotype or preconceived notion (much like my preconceived notions about sitcom writers.) The irony is that most of the model railroaders I know have regular jobs, families and activities that keep them from getting model railroad projects done.

 

The thing that bothers me about it is that they seem to want to associate aberrant behavior with model railroading, like the serial killer in a CSI episode who liked to build models of crime scenes and happened to be a model railroader, or a drug dealer/gang member/criminal in "Clockers" who happened to like to collect and run Lionel trains. In my case, I'm a megalomaniac planning on global domination and subjugation of the human race who happens to be a model railroader.

Hey Matt,
 
I think this all started with Gomez Addams and his gleeful destruction of his own train layout!
 
One more bad guy - Lex Luther in Superman Returns.  I'd like to have a layout like that without being a supervillain!
 
 
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:

I saw it last night. Thought it was kinda demeaning, but then you have to consider the source -- written by someone who based the character on some stereotype or preconceived notion (much like my preconceived notions about sitcom writers.) The irony is that most of the model railroaders I know have regular jobs, families and activities that keep them from getting model railroad projects done.

 

The thing that bothers me about it is that they seem to want to associate aberrant behavior with model railroading, like the serial killer in a CSI episode who liked to build models of crime scenes and happened to be a model railroader, or a drug dealer/gang member/criminal in "Clockers" who happened to like to collect and run Lionel trains. In my case, I'm a megalomaniac planning on global domination and subjugation of the human race who happens to be a model railroader.

 

Originally Posted by Hartman:
Originally Posted by Vulcan:

Yeah, what next ? An episode where the guys sit around and talk on a train forum about how unappreciated and misunderstood they are?

 

How insulting!

 

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By Rick B...

"Sometimes, when my married life has not being going well, I get a very lonely feeling and can't stand being by myself, in my train room.

 For me, that intensifies the feeling/sense of being lonely... cut off from the  rest of the world.

 I'll take a good relationship or friendship any day, over model trains.

 I seem to only really enjoy my trains, when I'm feeling secure, re: the important relationships in life.

 Rick"

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I know what you mean, Rick.  My wife left a year ago and train talk sure is not what it used to be.  Any talk, for that matter.  It sure is too quit around here.

Hi Dennis,

 

 

As soon as I read the initial post in this thread, I knew many reading it would feel a deep discomfort. The powerful feelings associated with loneliness are truly some of the most difficult, for social beings to  bear.

 

Some solo activities help provide relief, i.e. some work or chores, walking, exercise... ; but, for some reason, for me, being in an isolated room with my trains just doesn't feel good.

 

The first time I felt that awful loneliness... I wanted to immediately get rid of all my trains; they made me feel almost claustrophobic.

 

Recently, I had a complete physical, and during my conversation with my doctor, I told him we're all insecure; it's just to what degree. When our relationships, health and finances... are in order, we feel securer; but, if that significantly changes, negatively, in a way... our sense of well-being and security diminishes.

 

Fortunately, in many cases, time has a way of soothing things...

 

 

Rick

 

I can't speak for all folks in this hobby but from what I observed through my life is that most of us are basically loners.

Not that we don't crave the security of a loving family around us, but most of us would go nuts if we did not have our alone time. We are the types that need that more then most people. 

When I was a teenager I started to look at girls due to the normal development of my social and family drives. But, when I found a young lady who would demand all of my time I  would be gone before you could say, no way lady.

This was true of me even when I was not in the hobby. Of course when I met my wife and started a family, love and responsibility took over and I spent 99 percent of my time seeing to it that those things came first.

 

But, when I finally got around to spending some time in my train room I would not tolerate the loss of those few hours a week alone with my thoughts and toys.

 

My wife once told me that the basement, or in my case train room should be converted to a play room for my son. I simply told her to forget it, I had to work to get my mans cave let him work to get his.

 

Well, she would not stop even after I gave her space for a laundry room, storage closets, a second bathroom and more. So I made up a sign that hung on the header as you walked down the steps to our basement; "My Wife Told Me That if I Buy One More Toy Train She Would Leave Me, Gee I'm Going To Miss the Old Girl"!

 

Some may say I'm a hard nose, well I say tough DoDo. I bought our home where she wonted it,I fixed it up how she wonted it, I worked two jobs and overtime to pay for it and If I can't spec out ten percent for myself then I'm not sure if I need all this togetherness stuff.

 

Oh yea I forgot to tell you guys that when I walk up those steps out of my little hole in the ground my wife is the boss and I like it that way.

 

 

There have been a number of TV shows with trains of late, other shows have shown O Gauge.

 

Pretty Little Liars had a show with what looked like a 4x8 plywood layout in the front room with a child running trains. Just a loop of Fastrak and Lionel set 0-8-0 perhaps a couple of buildings, and the weird thing was it looked like a 70' MTH full length dome car in the middle of the old steamer freight train.

 

Big Bang has done some different ones but several you see Sheldons Lionel trains on shelves in his room.

 

Perhaps the best O Gauge layout was on I Carly where Freddy visits his train club with Sam was a nice looking room some larger scale ? Standard gauge on shelves around the room. Nice looking engine mural large size on door side of room. Looks like some basic Lionel starter steam sets and other details and Fastrak. Sam does a head on with the 2 steam engines. But train room looked great and some scenery on the large O Gauge layout.

 

A few years back I had a TV crew come over and rent out a couple of boxes of trains, track and transformer for one of the Vampire TV Shows not sure which one or episode. But the rental cheque paid for a new engine. They purchased a few junker rail cars to destroy in the taping.

 

Perhaps will see some more positive train features in future shows. O gauge would be great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss

 

 

 

He's deceased now, but there are some like Dick Proenneke that enjoy being alone. All he needed was a portable generator and a deep root cellar(a substitute for a basement) for a layout; and he would have set the benchmark, for the true lone-wolf model railroader.

 

Guys like Napoleon could have been model railroaders, too... with all that solitary time to kill, in exile.

 

 

Rick

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