Watching the cabside view now
I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic. Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.
I really wonder why the difference in perception.
palallin posted:I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic. Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.
I really wonder why the difference in perception.
Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated?
Hot Water posted:palallin posted:I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic. Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.
I really wonder why the difference in perception.
Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated?
Maybe so.
Maybe also that trains were relatively new to normal folks for the most part and I'd think some considered the use of a train to be disrespectful to a degree. I recall reading of such a reaction from that timeframe, by some.
Hot Water posted:palallin posted:I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic. Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.
I really wonder why the difference in perception.
Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated?
Yes but other than that, what did Mrs. Lincoln think of the play?
p51 posted:Hot Water posted:palallin posted:I find this interest in a funeral train for the layout moderately ironic. Years back, when the Lincoln Funeral Train was new(ish), there was something of a backlash, claiming that such a train was morbid.
I really wonder why the difference in perception.
Maybe because President Lincoln was assassinated?
Maybe so.
Maybe also that trains were relatively new to normal folks for the most part and I'd think some considered the use of a train to be disrespectful to a degree. I recall reading of such a reaction from that timeframe, by some.
By "years back," I mean when the Lionel model came out. Many folks were adamant that they'd never have one on their layout.
I can't imagine the manner of the death has anything to do with the reception of the toy today.
The train has arrived in College Station. The President is almost home. Rest in peace.
Nick Chillianis posted:The train has arrived in College Station. The President is almost home. Rest in peace.
Except, College Station was NEVER his "home". The Bush Presidential Library grounds will however, be his final resting place.
Hot Water posted:Nick Chillianis posted:The train has arrived in College Station. The President is almost home. Rest in peace.
Except, College Station was NEVER his "home". The Bush Presidential Library grounds will however, be his final resting place.
I meant it in the spiritual sense, Jack.
A very dignified and appropriate final journey for our former President! UP did a splendid job and the media coverage was excellent. BRAVO!
Some additional footage:
I wonder wha the "ears" were sticking off the top of 4141
juniata guy posted:UP has included a link on their website that provides details of the Bush Funeral Train.
https://www.up.com/media/media_kit/bush41/index.htm
And I'll repeat here what I posted on the TRAINS Newswire a day or two ago. President Bush is the last President I can honestly say I admired. Mr. Bush was a man of honor and dedicated the better part of his life to the service of our country. We don't make them like him any longer.
Rest in peace Mr. President!
Curt
Amen to that.
The train was a Magnificently made up train, looked like new, a great way to travel to Ones last place on planet earth, however, Mr. Bush is in his now, eternal home. A wonderful funeral.
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The UP showed a bit of class today, Bravo UP!
VEry Nice. Reminds me of the videos of Robert Kennedy and the trip from NYC to Washington DC.
Also when the train was pulling out, did anyone see the one RR worker to the right of the train stand guard.. as if his soldier training took over. 
prrhorseshoecurve posted:VEry Nice. Reminds me of the videos of Robert Kennedy and the trip from NYC to Washington DC.
Also when the train was pulling out, did anyone see the one RR worker to the right of the train stand guard.. as if his soldier training took over.
Yes, I noticed him, also ... and, if I remember correctly, he tucked his hard hat under his left arm.
Rusty
If it wasn’t already mentioned, apparently President George HW Bush was a train nut. Was reported that he really enjoyed trains.
“By "years back," I mean when the Lionel model came out. Many folks were adamant that they'd never have one on their layout.”
This is true. I remember my LHS had reduced the price to sell their inventory. I always thought it was a striking paint scheme and regret I didn’t find the means to buy one. I always admired HW’s wonderful sense of humor, he lived an honorable life, RIP Mr. President.
Rich
Diverging Clear posted:prrhorseshoecurve posted:VEry Nice. Reminds me of the videos of Robert Kennedy and the trip from NYC to Washington DC.
Also when the train was pulling out, did anyone see the one RR worker to the right of the train stand guard.. as if his soldier training took over.
Yes, I noticed him, also ... and, if I remember correctly, he tucked his hard hat under his left arm.
Rusty
I saw that but then noticed his co worker next to him still wearing her hard hat and taking video on her phone.
Surefire posted:I wonder wha the "ears" were sticking off the top of 4141
PTC antennae
Spoony81 posted:Diverging Clear posted:prrhorseshoecurve posted:VEry Nice. Reminds me of the videos of Robert Kennedy and the trip from NYC to Washington DC.
Also when the train was pulling out, did anyone see the one RR worker to the right of the train stand guard.. as if his soldier training took over.
Yes, I noticed him, also ... and, if I remember correctly, he tucked his hard hat under his left arm.
RustyI saw that but then noticed his co worker next to him still wearing her hard hat and taking video on her phone.
Not saying it's right or wrong but there are different rules for women wearing hats then men - women are not required to remove head coverings when in church or addressing the flag. This compensation has been offered because of the additional needs women sometimes have (hat pins, bobby pins, etc) in securing hats compared to men.
Additionally, seeing the hundreds to thousands of common citizens lining the route who also were taking cell phone video and not removing hats/caps, while I also noticed the woman railroad worker I didn't think it necessary to single her out. High respect, however, for the way her co-worker showed his.
I also noticed similar antennas on each car in the consist. QUESTION: What was under that long hump on the HEP car?
Tinplate Art posted:I also noticed similar antennas on each car in the consist. QUESTION: What was under that long hump on the HEP car?
Primarily the cooling system for the diesel generator set (maybe 750 KW as I recall).
I think the whole thing was very nicely done, I tip my hat to the Union Pacific Railroad for what they did.
HOT WATER: THANKS! ☺
turbine posted:I'm waiting on Lionel's diecast rendition of the bush funeral train, I would shell out the premium for it.
This is the roster as it ran:
UP 4141 EMD SD70ACe
UP 9096 EMD SD70AH
1) UPP 2066
2) UPP 8008 City of Portland
3) UPP 9009 City of San Francisco
4) UPP 5769 Council Bluffs
5) UPP 101 Lone Star
6) UPP 9004 Harriman
7) UPP 302 Overland
8) UPP 1610 Portola
9) UPP 5011 City of Denver
10) UPP 9005 Walter Dean
11) UPP 119 Kenefick
Would be best offered as separate sale items since the UP Challenger and Excursion sets had several of the cars.
Wendell
I was fortunate enough to see it in person as I'm from Spring. The crowds were amazing. Not a single protest or uproar anywhere. Everyone was very respectful of everyone else. I also have an O scale MTH 4141 so I pulled the Polar Express under my Christmas tree with it last night.
fredswain posted:I was fortunate enough to see it in person as I'm from Spring. The crowds were amazing. Not a single protest or uproar anywhere. Everyone was very respectful of everyone else.
In this day and age, that's utterly amazing...
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I was probably too close to tracks but above pictures are what I took. Also the train was moving fairly fast when it passed. Glad I got to witness history
