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Union Pacific confirms plans to restore Big Boy steam locomotive

Published: July 23, 2013
4014 Lustig
No. 4014 at Pomona
Photo by David Lustig
OMAHA, Neb. – Union Pacific confirms today it will purchase and restore a 4-8-8-4 Big Boy steam locomotive. The railroad has reached an agreement with the Southern California Chapter of the Railway & Locomotive Historical Society in Pomona, Calif., to transfer ownership of No. 4014 back to Union Pacific. The railroad plans to relocate the locomotive to Cheyenne, Wyo., where its Heritage Fleet Operations team will work to restore it to operating condition. Details regarding those efforts will be made public at a later date.

Union Pacific donated No. 4014 to the historical society Dec. 7, 1961. The locomotive arrived Jan. 8, 1962, at its current display location at the Rail Giants Train Museum in Pomona.

"Our steam locomotive program is a source of great pride to Union Pacific employees past and present," says Ed Dickens, senior manager of Union Pacific Heritage Operations. "We are very excited about the opportunity to bring history to life by restoring No. 4014."

Trains News News has been following the saga of No. 4014 since December 2012 and will continue to provide updates as they are available.

 

Originally Posted by PC9850:

IIRC, wasn't the 611 another one that had a strong following of pessimists? Guess this makes them 0 for 2 now 

 

I wonder if this will also cause a spike in the value of 4014 models as per the "famous number" syndrome. I was currently on the market for Lionel's JLC model, better find it quick....

Well, the issue with 611 is still funding, that one won't happen until $3.5 million can get raised by the museum. This looks like it will be funded by UP.

 

Not a naysayer btw, I'd love to see the 611 rolling since it's a lot closer to me.

Originally Posted by superwarp1:

It's to bad the Challenger 3895 won't be restored anytime soon or at all.  To have all three UP steamers up and running at once would be a sight to see.

Seems a little odd that 3895 is being "tossed aside" to make way for the BB. I don't know if "tossed aside" is the right way to put it; it's just based on some talk. It would be interesting to know what they plan to do with 3895, but keeping 3 large steam engines operational and rotating in service would be quite an expansion of the steam program, and seems unlikely. 

 

Probably the UP finally decided to run a Big Boy instead of a Challenger because the BB is such an icon. However, a few shortcomings seem to be: (1) Presumably the BB will be used to haul passenger cars, which it never did "in real life "(this will upset the purists, but most probably won't care - still a little odd, given that the UP seems to like to "keep it real"); (2) It's likely that the BB will be more limited than the Challenger as far as where it can be run. This would seem to be an important consideration.

 

For example, there's a lot of trackage that 844 can't run on, and the Challenger could, because the longer wheelbase of the 844 won't accommodate tighter curves. Just in this area, the Challenger could (and did on a number of occasions) come into Dallas on UP trackage, but the 844 never has (or ever will), because the curve radius of the UP line coming into downtown and the Union Station area is too tight for the Northern. I would assume the same issue will affect the BB.

 

One of the issues that caused the latest delay (this past Sunday) in ferrying the Dallas Big Boy to its new new museum location is concern about the Big Boy negotiating various curves. It will exit the downtown area on BNSF track, not the UPs, but there's still concern about other curves, including two wyes that will have to be traveled, one of which will have to be used.

 

So the UP will be using a steam engine for passenger service that it wasn't designed for, and operating it with some significant limitations on where it can be run. Or so it would seem.

Originally Posted by breezinup:
So the UP will be using a steam engine for passenger service that it wasn't designed for, and operating it with some significant limitations on where it can be run. Or so it would seem.

I wouldn't spend too much time over analyzing this, the UP knows what it is doing and wouldn't spend the $$$ or the time on acquiring or restoring a 4000 so it could sit still.  Lets just watch this progress.

 

Chris 

 
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Originally Posted by ReadingFan:
Originally Posted by MartyE:

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