Weekend tinplate photos/videos 6/2/17!

My Streamliners

Last week this French LR (La Rapide) 6-axle crane-car arrived:

I already had this smaller car:

And I found out that the cranes are exactly the same, but different coulours:

The price (in 1935) of the six axle crane was 40 French Francs while the 2 axle car was 15 French Francs.

Regards

Fred

Wine and Terra Cotta 252

Greetings friends,

We complete our tour of Great Britain's four great railway systems --Southern, LMS, Great Western, and the London & North Eastern with a trip to a LNER facility near Newcastle.  Finding the appropriate shed was a challenge, because I had to display my Bing LNER 3 coach interurban set.  So I settled on  South Gosforth which maintained the Tyne and Wear electric suburban trains.  In my imaginary world three LNER steam locomotives were visiting South Gosforth -- the Bing Flying Fox 4-6-0, the very rare Hornby 20 Volt 4-4-0 Yorkshire, and the star of the show--the Ace Mallard.  Mallard holds the official world's record for steam, though we Pennsy fans insist that the  7002 ran even faster at Ada Ohio back in 1905.  But, enough history. Let's see the trains!!!

Nice pictures everybody, as this weekend i have some free time i am going to run some standard gauge on carpet central, yes classic way of playing with trains as in the old time. Just have to choose which ones .... All original ones, no repro....

Have a great tinplate weekend and have fun with trains,  Daniel

This is what the beginning of a tinplate weekend looks like.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

This is what the beginning of a tinplate weekend looks like.

Steve

"You're gonna need a bigger boat". 

Roy Scheider

A Wells-Brimtoy kinda week

6-inch tunnel

1st 3rd dining car

I was somewhat under impressed with Ferdinand Metz's book on toy monorails. Although he represented some nice examples such as the Bolide, Leland, Teten's Gyroscopic, Jetrail Express, Schuco, AMF, StarCraft, Rocket Express, he missed quite a few others like Le Rapide, Stubbe and L'Aero Car from the early years. Nice reference material for the monorails it do contain though.

I gotta take a new pic...I keep forgetting about my other Streamliner...

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Nice pictures everybody, as this weekend i have some free time i am going to run some standard gauge on carpet central, yes classic way of playing with trains as in the old time. Just have to choose which ones .... All original ones, no repro....

Have a great tinplate weekend and have fun with trains,  Daniel

tough decision Daniel.....so many trains to choose from....

Ok, My first try with an airbrush... These are the cars from an AF set I bought around Christmas.  Paint came from Jeff Kane an is the original color for these cars.  Top pic is as they arrived.  The pictures don't really catch the color, it is very close to a perfect match.  After they are done, I'll try to snap a picture in better light.  Nothing special just an old beater Paasche VL double acting airbrush, some paint thinner and the paint.  I still need to flip the cars over and paint the bottoms.

I'm debating on whether or not to clear coat after the paint or not...

American Flyer Empire Express

Hello tinplate world.  My friend Lew Schneider suggested that I look at taking part in the Tinplate Weekend.  This looks like a good place to display some of my accidental prewar tinplate acquisitions.  I say "accidental" because my ain interest is in acquiring, rehabilitating and selling postwar Lionel.  It's not unusual for prewar Marx. AF and other stuff to be found in the collections that I get.  I've been fascinated by some of the earlier tinplate items that pop up.

Here's one that came with some 50's Lionel items that I got a few days ago.  It's a nice bridge with conencting ramps, similar to some Lionel items that I've seen.  It has no markings of any kind that might give a clue as to tis age or manufacturer.  Anyone recognize it ?

looking good Dennis. How do you like the airbrush? Never used one myself.

After rewiring the first 607, it went out with The Black Diamond for a shake down run. All went well.

Crews pulled the second 607 into the shop. The first car appeared to be the worst of the bunch, but the second turned out to be a littler worse once the rust was cleaned off. Our expert bodyman JB will take care of the rough areas.

Well, it's a bit more of a pain than a rattle can, that's for sure.  It takes some getting used to.  At first I mixed the paint/ thinner to thick and then maybe a bit to thin.  I ended up making about 20 real thin coats, but got no runs and a seemingly nice wet smooth layer at the end.  Like I said above, I still need to flip them over and spray the bottom and make sure the bottom edge of all the side ribs are covered good.

I think one thing that is real different or maybe a result of my set up was that I needed to be about 6-8" away to get decent paint on the cars.  If I was 12" away, I didn't get much paint on the cars.  I also learned that I needed to have the cars far enough apart to get the airbrush and paint bottle around each car.

That said, I really liked how it's ended up so far, and that paint really does match almost perfect. I think after this I'll want to work on a few other engine's.  I'll do the 265E stretch in Gunmetal, A Red Comet set, and cars for a Blue Comet set. I've had the pieces for those last two sets for years in boxes. and just never got the nerve to get the airbrush out.  Maybe now I can get them done and put back together.

By the way, That 607 really does look great Dave!

This one is an unusual switch that came with the same collection.  The dimensions seem to be the same as O-27, but it's not American.  What is it, and does it have any value to collectors ?

In this bottom view, we can see a tab under the frog that must have had a connection to the third rails.

It took me some time to figure out how to throw the switch - no stand.  I found that where the switch stand should be is a slot in which I can insert a screwdriver blade and throw the switch.

On each of the diverging tracks is a wire lever that can be rotated to contact the rail.  It can't be for electrical contact as it is not insulated from rail or tie.  Must have been for some kind of mechanical function.

There is an identifying logo with "Germany" under it.  I can't get it to show in a photo so I put a paper copy next to the switch.

I'm pretty sure those are Marklin. There is a similar pair at out local antique mall I pick up every time we go there. If I can figure out where to put them I'll buy them.

Thanks.  Please note that it's one switch, not a pair.

mlaughlinnyc posted:

Hello tinplate world.  My friend Lew Schneider suggested that I look at taking part in the Tinplate Weekend.  This looks like a good place to display some of my accidental prewar tinplate acquisitions.  I say "accidental" because my ain interest is in acquiring, rehabilitating and selling postwar Lionel.  It's not unusual for prewar Marx. AF and other stuff to be found in the collections that I get.  I've been fascinated by some of the earlier tinplate items that pop up.

Here's one that came with some 50's Lionel items that I got a few days ago.  It's a nice bridge with conencting ramps, similar to some Lionel items that I've seen.  It has no markings of any kind that might give a clue as to tis age or manufacturer.  Anyone recognize it ?

 

 

 

 

 

The way the center rail is mounted makes me think Ives.

Steve

Dave, you can put one of these rigs together, it'll take that rust right off.  Just get some rebar, cut in a 1 foot lengths, weld a bolt on one end and drill some holes in the top of the bucket.  Bolts through the holes, lock with a nut and then use a 12 or 14 gage wire to connected them together.   Get some Arm & Hammer detergent like you see in the picture.  Dump some in the bucket and connect the red lead to the rebar and the black to the car. make sure the car does not touch the rebar.  It works great on anything you can fit in the  bucket.  I saw a guy de-rust an engine block in a 55 gallon plastic barrel, now that was impressive.

I think that bridge is Ives also

NJCJOE posted:

This is absolutely magnificent NJCJOE! Is this a reissue or did you design and paint it yourself?

Here are some entry level Wide Gauge American Flyer sets

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

If we're talking repaints, here's one I did a long time ago:

Acquired the Lionel 248 from a friend who'd refurbished it as a baby Girard. Years later I found the 529/530 coach/observation at a local meet...someone had stripped them to bare metal than soldered them back together. Used Wood colors and dry transfers to finish out a baby Girard set. The Wood colors are slightly off, but not too bad. A conversation piece, and it looks great circling the Christmas tree.

PD

mlaughlinnyc posted:

This one is an unusual switch that came with the same collection.  The dimensions seem to be the same as O-27, but it's not American.  What is it, and does it have any value to collectors ?

In this bottom view, we can see a tab under the frog that must have had a connection to the third rails.

It took me some time to figure out how to throw the switch - no stand.  I found that where the switch stand should be is a slot in which I can insert a screwdriver blade and throw the switch.

On each of the diverging tracks is a wire lever that can be rotated to contact the rail.  It can't be for electrical contact as it is not insulated from rail or tie.  Must have been for some kind of mechanical function.

There is an identifying logo with "Germany" under it.  I can't get it to show in a photo so I put a paper copy next to the switch.

 

 

 

 

 

This switch looks similar but different to this illustration of 2-rail switches from a 1935 Marklin catalogue.  The long narrow bar to the switch throw looks the same but the configuration of the ties is different.

Interestingly, in the same 1935 catalogue the 3-rail versions are different again.

A couple of us west coast Tin Rodders were at the Huntington. Beach hot rod and concours car show. We were invited to run tinplate so we have our 30 5 rail modules set up.....and we did some mix and match trains..

Captaincog posted:

A couple of us west coast Tin Rodders were at the Huntington. Beach hot rod and concours car show. We were invited to run tinplate so we have our 30 5 rail modules set up.....and we did some mix and match trains..

A couple more pictures from today.

Steve

mlaughlinnyc posted:

This one is an unusual switch that came with the same collection.  The dimensions seem to be the same as O-27, but it's not American.  What is it, and does it have any value to collectors ?

There is an identifying logo with "Germany" under it.  I can't get it to show in a photo so I put a paper copy next to the switch.

The switch is a BING model, easy to recognise with the track clip system. The Marklin one is different as it has a double clip to maintain tracks.

There is a very well made website identifying old toy train tracks here :

https://railwaypages.com/the-museum

For the bridge it is more difficult, i think it is also a BING model from the end of Bing around 1931-32 but it could also be a BUB model. I had a Bing one a long time ago but didn't kept it. It was similar except the paint which was a sort a light grey. on yours it seems that there is a missing span on the top in the center. Are you sure the paint is original ?

Daniel

oooo.....I need one of those stock cars and gondolas....

Steamer posted:

oooo.....I need one of those stock cars and gondolas....

Gondola should be an easy fine with either the Lionel or Ives name. The stock car is Ives only.

Steve

yeah the gon is an easy find...just need to knock off buying junkers and grab one. I've seen a few of the Ives stockcar...

I think these are the permutations of those freight cars.

It's nice to have all the different permutations Greg. Impressive!

And yes, the Gondola should be an easy find. I picked up this Lionel 1717 Gondola in nice condition off eBay just within the last month.

got some color on the second 607 today.

1st electric cast iron 102 Joy line Loco I have ever seen. Box stamped 48-135. Sold on the Bay over the weekend.  I wonder if Barb Jones has one of these. The pickup, looks primitive.

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

I think these are the permutations of those freight cars.

 

wow I have never seen these,love the stock car,thanks

Thanks for the compliment Terry.  I enjoy the photos that you post of your collection too. It is very impressive.