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Originally Posted by Jim 1939:

The question was asked on another forum so I'm bringing it here. I like a medium speed as compared to scale slow. The club meets drive me nuts when they run crack passenger trains at Freight speeds so your thoughts are welcome.

Freight max speed would be 30 MPH for me, while passenger speed would be 55/60 MPH max for me.

Interesting question. Ivor is a  small engine on what is essentially a rural branch line - although with solid trackwork. He usually doesn't even pull a van as he progresses from layout scene to scene at a speed that 'looks good' to my Mark I Eyeball. When he is carrying sheep in an open truck or passengers in an ancient wagon, he goes even slower. Of course, when he is driven by a visitor (regardless of their age), he usually goes much faster. 

I have a DCC system with a speedometer on it. It's probably set for HO speeds as I run On30. So the speed it has it probably twice the real speed for O. So, I'm reading 20MPH on my mainline, but it's probably closer to 10. But for a very rural NG railroad in the 40s, it looks good. Takes longer to do the run on my relatively short mainline, too. Looks way more correct going that speed, too.
 
Originally Posted by modeltrainsparts:

We (our Thursday night train group) tries to run trains at prototypical speeds (ie. slowly). We had a member that thought they were toys and ran them at warp speeds. One of the many reasons he is no longer a member. 

A pal of mine who's no fan of 3-rail once referred to a 3-rail modular group we saw at a show as, "A flanged-wheel Indy 500" as they ran almost fast enough to fly off the curves, and in eternal circles. Kind of hard to deny the analogy in that case.

I try to keep freight at about 25 smph and passenger at 40 smph (I have only the eyeball method).

 

If I had a really big layout I would increase speeds somewhat, at times, as there are/were fast freights and fast passenger trains. But passenger trains ran at moderate speeds much - most - of the time as conditions do not permit 95 mph most of the time. I find that the 25/freight and 40/passenger (don't run those much, anyway) to be a good track speed on my small-to-moderate-sized layout.

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These anti-3-rail bigots who see only "flanged-wheel indy 500's" cannot learn, and seem a bit dim. I know several, and I no longer even talk to them (except politely) at shows. I can - and have - run, right in front of them, for example, my exquisite Lionel SP AC-9 2-8-8-4 at 3 smph, pulling a 25-car reefer train, and all they can see is a 2-6-2 doing 120.

 

After I observed that a few times, I realized that they have an agenda, and are simply rude, so they are not worth the breath.

 

All model railroads, except the point-to-point type (which have their own set of conceptual issues), are "eternal circles", regardless of their "scale".

Originally Posted by Putnam Division:

I love slow speed operation. Hence, I had to get rid of my O72/O54 curved switches.....I run small engines and at slow speeds the power drops were too long.

 

Peter

There's a work-around for this problem if you're using a Ross curved turnout and a Tortoise machine. Basically, you use the Tortoise's relay contacts to energize the unused closure rail as a hot lead and energize the closure rail in use as a ground. Did this with the #8 curved turnout and the smallest engines we have can go through at a crawl without hesitating, let alone stalling. You could potentially do this with an Atlas curved turnout, but you'd have to isolate the closure rails from each other and from the frog.

Very new to all this after my last trains were conventional from the fifties!

 

I read that crack passenger trains can hit 90-100 mph routinely? I was HORRIFIED at how fast that was on the DCS controller! H O R R I F I E D !

 

My minimum curves were O-72 at the time. Since increased. But NO s100mph! LOL!

Scale 60 is plenty fast enough! If I had a 100 foot straight section, I might feel differently but, IMO, slow looks better!

Originally Posted by Ingeniero No1:
Also discussed here.

 

Alex

I made the post in the topic Alex linked to back in February(?), since May, I've converted my steamers to battery power R/C.  Now I run them at 50-65% throttle

 

I took some measurements (DCS measured my mainline at 1/3 mile long) and with my Williams brass 2-8-2 at different throttle settings:

 

50% - 19mph

60% - 30mph

70% - 33mph

75% - 40mph

 

I'm happy with those speeds.

The problem with high speeds on any train layout is the fact that our curves are no where near to prototypical. We all use unreal radii and usually lack proper easement and super elevation.  Passengers on our miniature railroad would have broken necks and vertigo from our abrupt turns.

High speed trains on such layouts end up looking toy-like in operation. So I suggest speeds a little lower than the prototype.  Watch a few videos of layouts and see what I mean.

 

Earl 

Clikity Clack

On MTH / RailKing there is a feature called "Clikity Clack" for the sound.

     Get the locomotive up to about 30 smph, and the sound will change to a rail sound called "Clikity Clack".

     This is set up by using the soft keys or going into the Main Menu and look for "Clikity Clack" under sound.

     This is the only time I will go fast to get to this sound.

Gary

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