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I don’t like buying any modern trains NIB. Prefer to get something used but taken care of. Some people think mint/sealed means it will be pristine and work perfectly but you never know what kind of nasty problems could be hiding in that sealed shipping carton

100% agree.  I have bought off the auction site and always go for the units that are used but like new.  I want to see actual pictures of what I am buying not "samples".  If they include a video even better.  Not so much concern about rolling stock and such but engines, definitely prefer used but like new.

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@Jeff T posted:

It's funny to me how topics disappear as we all move on to the next big thing... I didn't read much when it came out, so curious what the opinions were. Besides that, I'm considering one.

Thanks!

I love mine, and I luckily had zero issues.   It is a beast!  All diecast.  Sounds are great too!

Unfortunately, NIB does not mean problem free.   So, you just buy it at a good price and deal with anything that crops up.  That is pretty much what we do anymore with stuff from Lionel.

I love mine, and I luckily had zero issues.   It is a beast!  All diecast.  Sounds are great too!

Unfortunately, NIB does not mean problem free.   So, you just buy it at a good price and deal with anything that crops up.  That is pretty much what we do anymore with stuff from Lionel.

I think that's true for all secondary market purchases from any manufacturer.

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I bought the #69 Veranda and it's perfect. I thought I had issues with the smoke units but that's a long story so I tried to take the body off to see if I had overflowed the too small (in my opinion) smoke receptacles but I was unable to turn the body screws. It turned out I just was not putting enough fluid in. The thing burns the smoke fluid so quickly, like most Lionel locomotives, that it is ridiculous. You are always stopping to add fluid which subtracts from the enjoyment. The receptacles need to have much larger capacity so they last longer. Another thing is I would like to see an indicator of how much fluid is in there and how much you can put in. I should just run with smoke turned off but I an hooked on smoke.

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