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There are some threads that describe a number of Forum Members who utilize these transformers to power accessories.  Based on your experience, do you have a make and model of such a transformer that you can recommend?  I've done some searching on Home Depot and electrical component distributors websites, and find the vast array of available equipment fairly confusing given my modest electrical background.  

Since I have no familiarity with this type of transformer at all, do the Malibu and other transformers have 12V outputs similar to a ZW with bindings posts, and, if not, how do you connect the ground and power wires to your bus bar or terminal strips?

Many thanks!!!

 

 

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I have used the 300 watt vesion for some time now with good results. The only thing I noticed is that the output comes up a little short of 12 volts for some reason. More like 11.5 vac or thereabouts. Dont know if this is typical or not.

The 200 watt unit as shown should handle 15 amps total load @ 12 vac nominal output, so you will be able to run lots of accessories. Just remove the connector and hook up to you distribution bus. Polarity is not important, but if you are going to use track ground common for any of the accessories then you need to put this in phase with your track power transformer.

Rod

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 posted:

Thanks Rod!  That is very helpful information.  Do you find that the voltage "shortage" limits the utility to you?  I would suspect not in many circumstances, which is a good thing.

Dennis, I actually use a Powerstat on the primary side of the Malibu to increase the supply a little so as to get the 12 vac out. I use it in moderation because the Malibu starts to hum noticeably at about 130+ vac input, but it never gets even mildly warm.

JohnH's suggestion of old computer power supplies is a good one. I use 3 of these scattered around the layout. They have nice quiet fans that are controlled to speed up when heavily loaded. The 12 vdc outputs typically are 20-30 amps each, so they can run a bunch of stuff. They are also a good supply for the small DC-DC buck converters for local lighting, signals and such. The 5 vdc outputs are good for Miller signs, which as you likely know come with 3 cell 4.5 vdc battery holders. Don't think I have anything using the 3.3 vdc outputs.

Rod

John H posted:

You can get a pc power supply for a lot less money that will serve the same purpose. $0 out of an old computer, $15 to $20 for used at a computer repair shop, or this 750W one from Walmart for $28. And, you get a super fast breaker. Most have 12v, 5v, and 3v taps. It is dc, but will run all but a few older accessories.

On the Walmart Model:

      EVGA 500B Bronze Power Supply

How do you know which of the output wires to use, and if you cut off the male plug will there just be a positive and negative wire?  Thanks for the info!

I use a Malibu outdoor 12V lighting transformer with timer and light sensor.

I use it to control the lighting on my layout such as street lamps, and building lights (inside and out)

It is run completely independent of anything else.  Since mt layout is visible, and almost a nice piece of furniture, the lighting on it turns on and off, even if I am not using the layout.  A neat effect.

 

This Transformer looks interesting because it nominally has a choice of voltages  accessible by the selection of output wire placement.  The description states that it is a "300W Multi Tap Stainless Steel Transformer - 12V - 15V."  

The wiring instructions are very helpful in understanding how to connect the transformer, as shown in Drawing #4 toward the bottom of the instructions:

       "Connect wires as shown in Drawing #4 one to the ̈COM ̈ and the other to12VFor longer wire run chose higher voltage the best voltage should be between 11-12V."

       https://www.bestprolighting.co...0W600W900WManual.pdf

This will make it simple to connect the layout accessory wiring as it involves the same 2 wire connections that I am familiar with on my Lionel transformers.

Here is there actual transformer model:

       https://www.bestprolighting.co...rEAQYAyABEgLzO_D_BwE

Finally, I found an excellent YouTube video on wiring a Malibu transformer, and the wire placement is similar to that described above.  Pretty simple actually!  (Since I posted this thread, I haven't had much luck finding a user friendly Malibu Transformer Instruction Manual online, but the YouTube video was helpful.  I would have gone to Lowe's to look at the transformers, but expect that they are a seasonal item in our area of the country.)

It was interesting to find that some of the larger Malibu transformers have output wire connections, or "taps" at voltages above 12V, similar to the transformer described above.

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Note To Frank:

       Thanks for the additional information!  I'll have to wander around a computer parts supply store and take a look at the equipment.  The molex connectors look like they come in a myriad of configurations, so that will be a worthwhile trip.  As to the HO transformers, I have a couple in the basement.  I'll have to relearn whether they are DC or AC.  (I seem to remember that they are DC.)

Note To David:

       Thanks David!  Your lighting set-up sounds really great. I better understand how you achieve the timing effects after reviewing the instructions for the transformer described in the above links.  Pretty neat!

 

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I use 12 VDC for lighting (Micromark 33 amp power supply).  I've converted all my buildings, street lights, bumper lights, etc to LEDs.  I use 14 VAC for most accessories, signals and switches (28 V CT transformers). I dim some street lamps using those dollar motor controllers sold on the bay. I have Z500s and a Z1000 providing dedicated power to TIU's, trolleys and some accessories which work better on 18 VAC. Two ZW's provide power to the tracks.

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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 posted:

Thanks Steve!  It looks like you are using this model:

       https://www.micromark.com/Inst...502-power-supply.pdf

On a jocular note the WARNINGS are definite attention getters...I suspect it's not a good idea to become conductive material for the primary coil!

Yes, that it.  Works great.  Since it can output 33 amps, I've fanned out the output into four different buses  I use a 4 pole relay to switch the output power ON/OFF. A switch on my control panel controls the relay.  When I turn on the layout, the DC power supply is energized but no output to the layout until I hit the control panel switch.

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