I really like the GG-1s as you'll so see.  I have Weaver, MTH, Williams, Lionel JCL, and 3rd Rail "Rivets".  That said, it hurts me to say "I don't need another one."  Well, maybe if Kohs came out with a 3rail version.

Jan

" I'm feeling so good that I've dissuaded the PRRT&HS lynch mob from visiting Landsteiner's house and punishing him for his heretical acts."

Just for reference do you pay the PRRT&HS lynch mob union wages?  Must be expensive keeping them on retainer for the right moment .

Sorry.... NOT ME....$1399 list for a GG-1....Nope....Too far out of my price limits

Landsteiner posted:

" I'm feeling so good that I've dissuaded the PRRT&HS lynch mob from visiting Landsteiner's house and punishing him for his heretical acts."

Just for reference do you pay the PRRT&HS lynch mob union wages?  Must be expensive keeping them on retainer for the right moment .

I'm not really sure.  They're kind of like the Spanish Inquisition, no one expects them.   Within PRRT&HS, I'm registered at the Vigilante membership level.

Dominic Mazoch posted:

At least they did not ruin the classic lines of the GG1 with WARBONNET livery!

........Yet!

Bruce

Not me. The price is no big deal, I am just not a GG-1 fan.

I am getting one because

A I like it

B I don't have one

C I can!

brwebster posted:

Dominic Mazoch posted:

At least they did not ruin the classic lines of the GG1 with WARBONNET livery!

........Yet!

Bruce

Bruce; 

I think that the Warbonnet is possibly the greatest post-steam era paint scheme. That being said, it is just sooooo wrong on so many levels on the GG-1.

M J Breen posted:

I ordered the Black PRR #4935 (okay Brunswick green...) and the 8 car Broadway.

I was thinking about the Tuscan PRR 4913 too but I already have the JLC Tuscan 4912. I'll wait until it comes out and decide if I want it then. 

 

What is the deal on this paint? I see the pictures from the catalog which are quite green, but the nickname of the engine was "Blackjack" and the color of that real engine in pictures I've found look more black than green. So...is it going the be black or green like in the 2016 Signature catalog?

The rivet ones look kind of unique and interesting...but the #4935 was more tempting. I guess I'm more of a traditionalist.

Wonder what color it's gonna be...?

Apples55 posted:

brwebster posted:

Dominic Mazoch posted:

At least they did not ruin the classic lines of the GG1 with WARBONNET livery!

........Yet!

Bruce

Bruce; 

I think that the Warbonnet is possibly the greatest post-steam era paint scheme. That being said, it is just sooooo wrong on so many levels on the GG-1.

I would buy that right now!      Partly because I think it's fun, and partly to see the usual players go apoplectic when I brought it to run at a club.

EscapeRocks posted:

Apples55 posted:

Bruce; 

I think that the Warbonnet is possibly the greatest post-steam era paint scheme. That being said, it is just sooooo wrong on so many levels on the GG-1.

I would buy that right now!      Partly because I think it's fun, and partly to see the usual players go apoplectic when I brought it to run at a club.

EscapeRocks:  It was executed with exactly that in mind...my version of painting a mustachio on the Mona Lisa.

Apples55:  I know what you mean...it's so wrong when the running gear isn't painted silver.

Bruce

"Partly because I think it's fun, and partly to see the usual players go apoplectic when I brought it to run at a club."

I would be one of those.....

I'm in for a Conrail unit.

Mark

I am truly pleased that the GG1 fans are getting their opportunity to add to their motive power fleet. Over $1,000 seems high for a non-steam locomotive to me. That's all I have to say about price.

Since I am modeling the L&N, I am not in the market for a PRR, Conrail, or any northeast railroad, so I will not be in the market for any of the GG1's.

Enjoy those GG1's and please post some videos of the sparking pantagraphs I'd love to see those special effects.

Even with a self imposed restriction to road names heading West from Chicago, it was difficult to resist this model. A great catalog for Northeast enthusiasts. I'm excited for those who have ordered and look forward to posts showcasing their VL GG1. I'm also delighted to get a break from purchasing some these costly confections.  

brwebster posted:

Apples55:  I know what you mean...it's so wrong when the running gear isn't painted silver.

Bruce

Bruce;

One of the first engines I bought when I really got back in to trains in the late 70's was a Santa Fe F3 A-A set (I believe it was referred to as the Super O version - not home, so I can't check the number). It had the silver trucks, and I agree, they really make the whole pain scheme. I bought them as new/old stock from good old Madison Hardware. I then wanted the B unit with the same silver trucks. THAT took a while for them to find, but was worth the wait because, as I said, the silver trucks really made the engine look great. In the case of the GG-1, I am afraid NOTHING would help!!!

brwebster posted:

Dominic Mazoch posted:

At least they did not ruin the classic lines of the GG1 with WARBONNET livery!

........Yet!

Bruce

I see my work here is not done. 

This blasphemy will not go unpunished. 

We live turbulent times, 40 days of pestilence, dogs and cats living together, and then this....

Obviously the End Days are here.

George

well...perhaps had this livery been offered, I would have been forced to succumbed...

Maybe - maybe not - The Daylight has my attention

PSU1980 posted:

Maybe - maybe not - The Daylight has my attention

PSU;

Love the Daylight scheme... ordered the new GS-4... but on a GG-1??? Now you are just poking the sleeping (Nittany) lion!!!

I am not going to do a Lionel Pre / order. but will look for it when it comes out. This will be popular and my LHS, will order extras and so will some of he large on line train shops.

Gary

Pre-ordered a riveted 4800 5 stripe and the broadway limited set (including the station sounds add on.) I can't wait to simulate it doing a transfer to my Steam Turbine or Pennsy T1 

I think the price is high, but I'm not buying it for an monetary investment. My Son and I spend hours playing with trains and the ROI from a "quality time" with my Son is priceless!!!!

I pre-ordered the Amtrack version.  I am looking forward to having it pull my Amtrak cars.  

I do want one, but my hesitation is based on the largest possible curves I can conceivably build into my layout.  I hope to have 0-96, but would probably need to have this thing run on 0-72 also.  I can't go bigger than o-96.

Can I ask those of you who are buying these, what size curves are you planning to run these things on?

Thanks,

Ben

banelson posted:

... I hope to have 0-96, but would probably need to have this thing run on 0-72 also.  I can't go bigger than o-96.

Can I ask those of you who are buying these, what size curves are you planning to run these things on?

...

Lionel recommends minimum O-72 for the JLC versions (which I don't think will change much -- if at all -- with the Legacy version), so you should be more than fine with O-96.  With 21" passenger cars in tow, the broader the curve radii the better!

David

I'm not ordering it-no interest.

hope the rest of you enjoy it.

I pre ordered the L82752 #4877.  Have all the other vision line engines so thought would give it a try. Looks like the sound system will be a upgrade from previous models along with the new sparking LED lol. Not bad for the price if you look at the features and comp[are to some of your favorites with the new technology and a 2 year warranty. Cheers Don

Ok so I have take back what I said earlier in the post. After going back and looking at the catalog again I ordered the Penn Central version along with the 7 PC cars. I did not have a GG1 nor do I model the PRR but I liked the look of the PC set with all of the different color cars. So I am in......

Did the ICG or KCS have GG1?                      I'm shell not be ordering one  as I have no interest.

I just ordered the 4800 5-stripe from Ro.  I don't have a GG1.  The riveted body should be neat.  Not cheap, but frankly I had thought they would price it higher...

Ben  

laz1957 posted:

………..only wish it was done up in Black Jack PC.

If one of them was a Penn Central 'Black Jack', I would have.  But Lionel told me "Maybe next time" at York.  

I will not hold my breath waiting for one!

the question was 

Who Is Going To Buy The New Visionline GG-1?

.....not who is not buying one and why.

I am buying two.

AlanRail posted:

the question was 

Who Is Going To Buy The New Visionline GG-1?

.....not who is not buying one and why.

I am buying two.

Details, details.

It's really tough to pick just one.  Is there such as thing as too many good options...?  That's my current "complaint"

Rocky Mountaineer posted:

banelson posted:

... I hope to have 0-96, but would probably need to have this thing run on 0-72 also.  I can't go bigger than o-96.

Can I ask those of you who are buying these, what size curves are you planning to run these things on?

...

Lionel recommends minimum O-72 for the JLC versions (which I don't think will change much -- if at all -- with the Legacy version), so you should be more than fine with O-96.  With 21" passenger cars in tow, the broader the curve radii the better!

David

I've run my current JLC version on O-63, but had to take it really easy to keep the lead truck from derailing.  It really does need O-72 as specified which is what I run it on when I'm not on the club layout, but it will obviously run great on anything bigger as well.

I have the K Line semi scale Blackjack w/TMCC good enough for me