Williams O27 Passenger Cars Pull Hard

I use LaBelle's.  What's the oil you are using?

Are the cars still under warranty?  I had a couple of B units (for an F3AA set) do the same thing. They replaced the trucks under warranty. I don't think the holes for the axles were the correct specs.

Roger

Are these the "Luxury Lines" cars? Do they have "fast angle" wheels? What is the uncoupling mechanism on these? Can you post pics of the trucks, wheels, & axles?

I would have had those cars in for warranty repair within a month. Try contacting Williams/Bachmann and see what they say.

Lee Fritz

Matt:

I have two sets of the WBB Luxury Lines 0-27 passenger cars; one UP and the other NYC.  Both sets exhibit the same "hard to pull" characteristics you have observed with your passenger cars.  And, like you, I have tried a bit of oil on each axle.  That helped some but, the cars still didn't roll as well as I thought they should.  

I was running the NYC set using a WBB powered/dummy set of NYC GP9's and discontinued it after I noticed how warm the powered engine was running. The UP set I pull using a set of Lionel UP Alco FA's with Pullmore motor.  This set had always run warm anyhow so I continue to run it occasionally.  

I've retired the WBB NYC passenger cars after replacing them with a four car set of RMT NYC passenger cars.  These run exponentially better behind either my NYC GP9's mentioned above or my WBB NYC F3's.  The paint on the RMT cars is a near perfect match to that on the WBB engines and the cars themselves are much nicer looking and have interiors as well.

Curt

I have the same issue with the same Williams cars.  I am going to investigate further and hope to come up with a solution.  I will report back if I come up with something.

butch1 posted:

I have the same issue with the same Williams cars.  I am going to investigate further and hope to come up with a solution.  I will report back if I come up with something.

I would love to see pics of the trucks, wheels, & axles on these to see how they are constructed, as I have not seen them in person(as far as I know).

I'll see what I can do. Got a busy evening ahead, so unless that Gargraves switch I ordered shows up, I probably won't even get down to the basement, let alone have any train time.

On other Williams passenger cars, I have had to rework the center rail pickups. The springs Williams used were much too strong and put too much pressure on the rollers. This was on the type of pickups where the spring exerts vertical pressure and the roller movement is vertical. I swapped the Williams springs for Lionel springs.

The pickup types with lever arms are fine.

oil lubricant solve a lot of troubleshootings , just be patient !

One observation I've made about the axles is they don't turn freely. Even on cheap Lionel trucks you can give a wheel a flip and the axle will spin for several seconds.

Out of the 16 axles on the four cars, ONE would turn a revolution or two. The rest stop immediately.

sorry sometimes for misunderstood , my technical language is short

is pointed axles or tubulars ?

Guys.....as I said above.......call Williams......they know about this issue.

Roger