Won't run in TMCC

Is the program/run switch in the "run" position???

Marty

Do you know what address the previous owner gave it?Typically folks program locos using either the first two or last two digits of the cab number on the loco. It will not respond unless you do, otherwise reprogram it with a new address and see if that works. A loco is not "addressed " in conventional operation which is why it works.

You have to put it in program and assign it a new ENG number.  Don't run it in program.  Put it in Program- push ENG-- then put in your new ENG #--then take it off the track and put it in RUN.  Then run it.

You are not reading what I am posting.....

I did do that and it is not responding!!!!!!

something is wrong. 

it should not run in conventional if a command system is plugged into the layout.

I know something is wrong.....What???

That is why I'm on here asking the questions....

Sorry Rich- I just read where you wrote 'when I put it in program it just wants to run down the track'... that didn't make sense to me because it shouldn't move when you are simply programming an ENG # 

can you post the lionel number 6-XXXXX?

Sounds to me like he lost the antenna or the antenna is shorted to the frame. Both will kill the TMCC functions and cause the engine to run in conventional all the time. Some engines use a strip of copper or a piece of metal for the antenna that is not insulated. This can come loose in shipping and drop onto the frame or some other piece of metal causing this problem. I would take the cover off and check all connections and plugs. Find the antenna and make sure it is insulated. If the receiver board receives no TMCC signal at all you will get no indication, no flashing headlight.

Al

The no sound also indicates and issue.  Product number will help.  Since you have TMCC engines I assume you know how to program and turn sounds on and off.

I think it is best to open up and see what is actually in the engine.  G

Thanks fellas

I'll check the antenna.  I didn't want to start taking things apart until I talked to someone 

who might know what to look for.

I'll let you know how I make out...

Rich

Well I took the shell off and found a board completely un-plugged from the main board.
So I plugged it back in and put it on the track.

I got the sound. BUT, it will not respond to the TMCC radio commands.
So I guess I'll have to take it to a service station to see what they can do for me.

Rich

Before that trip, I suggest you do a total inspection of all the boards and connections.  If one was unplugged, I'd be taking a critical look at everything.

I already did that and my friend who is good in electronics looked at it also...

Did you try swapping the R2LC with a working locomotive?  I'd make sure that part it functional, since it's the primary reason it wouldn't run in TMCC but run in conventional.  Are you SURE the antenna is properly connected?

Antenna  looked okay to me.  I have a GP 30 Lionel would that work as the test engine?

and which one is the R2LC

I recently purchased and item from a member of this forum and when it arrived it did not function properly either. A circuit board was floating loose inside of the unit (sounds similar to your situation, Rich). After I plugged the board back in, the unit still did not work. The seller said it was perfect before it was shipped it and he is not responsible for damage in shipping (he did not insure the package).

So off it went to MTH for repairs that I will have to pay for (not to mention the shipping cost). It won't be back from MTH for approximately six weeks as they have a backlog in the repair dept.

Thanks Terrence....

I'm not sure what I'm going to do.  I guess I'll have to take it to a Service Station

I don't know what else to do...

I don't think I'll be buying any engines off this forum for a while.

Rich

As posted by others, I would re-check all board connections.  Also, did the engine lights flicker when in command mode?  It is my understanding and experience that a flickering headlight can be a symptom of a bad antenna connection.

Another possibility is a bad run/program switch.

Rich here is the R2LC

If swapping the R2LC don't work, you probably have a bad motor driver, bad encorder board.

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I got burned by a forumite sale also.  Got the engine on a Friday.  Was at the service station on Saturday with a burned out Pullmor.  Waiting for a new motor.  He said he hardly ever ran the engine or the set it came with.  The beat up manual is telling me a different story.  The motors were never oiled and after about 45 minutes of what I thought was break in time, it died.  I was going to run for more oil in the morning because I had just run out a couple of days before.  I have 10 pullmor powered engines that run beautifully because I service them regularly.  2 lessons learned.  Sorry, I got off your topic a bit...

Good luck with yours   

Thanks Bill 

I'll try swapping out the boards.

Rich

Thanks Bill for your help.

I found the board you were talking about.  It was labeled with that number.

However, when I took the cab off my GP 30 the boards were installed different and the numbers were not the same.  So I decided not to take a chance and burn a board up.

I am going to take it to a service station.  There is one in Kittanning Pa which is close to me.  Thanks for your help.  

I guess buyer beware is still in effect on this forum.  The seller said it ran.  Well it did,

not in TMCC mode thats all....

Rich