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We're running a ZW-C with 4 180 watt bricks in command mode. All 4 bricks are plugged into the same outlet strip as the TMCC command base and the Legacy base. All 4 handles on the ZW-C are in the full throttle position. Handles are programmed TR-1 through TR-4, with 1 and 4 being the outter handles, and 2 and 3 being the inner handles.

 

Power up the layout with the master switch, address each throttle and dial power to max. All 4 throttles show 18v. Everything is good.

 

Now we power the layout down by shutting on the master switch on the outlet strip.....turns everything off at once, leaving the handles on the ZW-C at full throttle. 

 

When we power the layout back up with the outlet strip master switch, the outter handles on the ZW-C, TR-1 and TR-4 have no voltage. TR-2 and TR-3 still at 18V.

Every single time we power up the layout, we have to dial up TR-1 and TR-4 and reset the voltage to max, but TR-2 and TR-3 remain unchanged at 18V.

 

Anyone know why this is, or how to set it so all 4 throttle remain at max voltage when killing the master power switch?

 

 

Not sure that it matters, but each 180 watt brick is running through the MTH TIU, and then to the track. The 2 variable channels are set to "FIXED" and the TIU is powered by an aux power supply, plugged into the outlet strip as well. I don't see how that would alter the ZW-C throttles at all during power up when nothing changed.  

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Your transformer is operating correctly.

 

If you want it to operate the way you describe...refer to the Lionel manual page 12 of this document.

 

If you assign ID# 0, the ZW Controller will return to manual mode. Use the handles and levers on the ZW Controller—not your CAB-1 Remote Controller—to operate the controller. The ZW Controller will, however, respond to the HALT command from the CAB-1 Remote Controller. (To restore power after pressing HALT,

 

When assigned an ID other than zero, the 2 outer handles will always come up at 0 volts regardless of where they are set and you use the Cab1/2 to raise the voltage to where they are set physically.  The 2 inner handles will come up where they are set and use the Cab1/2 to lower or raise the voltage to it's set value.

Thanks Marty. I guess I was hoping there was a work around or software change of something or some kind to change that. I would like them all to power on at the level that the handles are set. I know I can do that in manual mode, but we run conventional too sometimes, thats why we're using it in command mode.

 

We set all 4 TIU channels at fixed, then regulate thier out put by using the command mode of the ZW-C bricks running through the TIU. The TIU only puts out what you put in, so all four channels are variable using the cab 1/2 to dial up voltage fro the 4 bricks.

 

I'm also open to any better suggestions as to how to run the layout with the options of runing TMCC/Legacy, DCS, and conventional. It works now the way we have it wired up, but maybe there is a better way.

 

4 bricks power through a TIU...2 blocks each per upper 2 loops. Z4000 running through another TIU to power lower loop DCS, TMCC/Legacy and conventional using variable channels on the TIU.

 

Both TIU's are in Super TIU Mode.

My ZW-C does the same thing.

You can set each Chanel as if you are programing them for max speed: press tr and 0ne, turn voltage up slightly, press "set' button, turn voltage up all the way, press set again. Next time you  hit TR and 1 turn the red knob a little and it goes to max output,  i hope I got this right,I had to fool around a little to get it but now i turn power on, all throttles full and on tr 1 and 4 turn the red knob a little and i'm done.  

  Don

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