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Thanks for posting this Jonathan.

FYI, the MP and T&P weren’t been done in the earlier runs because of  their porthole windows. It’s Great to finally have them offered And in Both Eagle and Jenks blue. In addition to hauling passenger cars, Many of the Jenks diesels saw extensive duty hauling mail/express consists.
Cheers😉

And here are the two Texas Special diesels - Frisco and MKT.  Ownership is ID’d by the Forward road emblem on the side. The closed pilot is really Sharp. These two models were only done for run 2.
Frisco
MKT

The Frisco Meteor is identical but has no name on the side and just Frisco symbols on the nose and side between the nose and cab ladder.  It has never been done in O scale.  
Cheers 😉

@GG1 4877, Jonathan, if you know, how will The Texas Special's stainless steel panels be simulated? I'm tempted to place an order but a poor representation of that feature would be difficult to accept.

Thanks, @TrainBub, for the excellent TS photos (which I'd mistakenly attributed to Jonathan) in my original post.

@PINGMAN

You might look back at the GGD Texas Eagle  cars. The corrugated roof of the Budd car looks amazing to me.

@Pingman posted:

@GG1 4877, Jonathan, if you know, how will The Texas Special's stainless steel panels be simulated? I'm tempted to place an order but a poor representation of that feature would be difficult to accept.

Thanks for the photos and your contributions to the program.

First - Scott Always stands behind his products. To keep from misquoting or misrepresenting anything,  I Suggest you contact him Directly with Any Questions you might have.
Second - the Texas Special pictures I have posted above are my own recent  “portraits”. These diesels were done in 2012, are Very Well Executed and are just as nice now as they were then. The side panels are Very Well Executed. You can zoom in and check along the length of either car. Here’s a one shot close up for your examination.

So…..I offer here a 2012 manufacturing snapshot. For 2024, I might anticipate some upgrades but I bet most will be inside the shell.  IMHO of course. 🤔

And FYI - these models were done as a Special Run for JDs Trains (no longer in business) in St. Louis and undoubtedly a very small run. Even Jonathan has commented elsewhere that they are scarce and Never show up in the secondary market. I’ve my 2 Tx Specials so this time I’ve reserved the never produced Meteor diesel (Along with MP, T&P).  
Cheers 😉

There is another forum thread just on the current Golden Gate Depot Texas Special / Meteor offering. I suggest you check it out. Lots of good information !!!!! 👍🙂

Thanks @TrainBub for the photos (which are now correctly attributed to you in my previous post.)

And I will contact Scott directly regarding the simulated stainless steel panels of the TS diesels as you suggested.

Scott has announced in a newsletter thread that the E7 will be going into production - reservations closing April 15. 😜😜😜  
Time to get off the fence and step up !!!!!

Cheers 😉

Jonathan,

I am not sure who picks the road numbers, but I am putting a plug in. Of the many engines I ordered, two are Mopac A-B set "Eagle Colors". I would like to get 7012 and 7012B (B unit). These belonged to the IGN ( a Texas subsidiary ) and I really don't care if the "IGN", if it was even there shows up on the engine at all. I just want the road numbers. This engine was photographed a lot running through Austin and central Texas, Texarkana area and even St. Louis. It was the only A-B set of a Texas sub.  IGN had two other A's 7007 & 7013. The St. L. B.&M only had A units (road numbers 7008 & 7009) and I can switch to A's only if you going to make those and not 7012 and 7012B.

On the T&P units...A's only.  I would like to get some odd numbers 2001, 2003, etc. All of the E8 A units from the past (that I have) are even numbers. I have 2010 and 2012.

Also I ordered T&P Jenks blue units maybe make those even numbers like 2000, 2002, etc. so nobody who ordered both will not end up with the same numbers

Thanks

Joe

Thanks for the input Joe!  Numbers have yet to be selected for the new road names outside of PC which I did the graphics for 12 years ago and it is now finally getting produced.

Jonathan,

Thanks for the response. Hopefully you can make it work out for 7012 & 7012B. I am sure the Texas guys would appreciate that as well as it was seen often on the point of the Texas Eagle.

Who is going to officially start posting about the topic of the new O scale GP30s?

Andrew

@Blue Streak posted:

Jonathan,

I am not sure who picks the road numbers, but I am putting a plug in. Of the many engines I ordered, two are Mopac A-B set "Eagle Colors". I would like to get 7012 and 7012B (B unit). These belonged to the IGN ( a Texas subsidiary ) and I really don't care if the "IGN", if it was even there shows up on the engine at all. I just want the road numbers. This engine was photographed a lot running through Austin and central Texas, Texarkana area and even St. Louis. It was the only A-B set of a Texas sub.  IGN had two other A's 7007 & 7013. The St. L. B.&M only had A units (road numbers 7008 & 7009) and I can switch to A's only if you going to make those and not 7012 and 7012B.

On the T&P units...A's only.  I would like to get some odd numbers 2001, 2003, etc. All of the E8 A units from the past (that I have) are even numbers. I have 2010 and 2012.

Also I ordered T&P Jenks blue units maybe make those even numbers like 2000, 2002, etc. so nobody who ordered both will not end up with the same numbers

Thanks

Joe

Hi Joe,  
You should remember me from the Eagle thread. I’m preparing a large numbering “graphic”/ spreadsheet for Scott for the MP, T&P / Jenks numbering. As usual for MP, things aren’t straight forward with it all.
I believe other than number, there is no subsidiary (assigned) ownership (for I-GN or STLB&M) indication on the diesels. To read your note - you get that. Obviously, MP and T&P are readily separated.
I will make sure your I-GN number is in the list. I think key to getting it will be to have your reservation in early with the number request - so the request can be noted On Your Invoice. This is important when the boxing happens prepping for shipping.

All - FYI.                                                          In finalizing MP, T&P choices, keep in mind Scott has acknowledged that MP Jenks passenger cars will be offered.  
Cheers 😉

Just for the fun of it, reposting my "heritage" UP creation from a few years back.  Any takers?

E7 closing tomorrow 4-15.
Last Chance !!! 😉

Will it still be possible to reserve models tomorrow?  Or will the reservation window be closed as of toimorrow?

@Ready-to-Run Mark posted:

Will it still be possible to reserve models tomorrow?  Or will the reservation window be closed as of toimorrow?

Just turn in a reservation. If it works, you are in. If it doesn’t, you can try “standby” which means you are in Q if a like reservation cancels or doesn’t pay when product arrives. Early standbys get precedence.
And sometimes the reservation closing date slips a bit.  Sometimes ……. 🤔
Good Luck !!! 👍
Cheers 😉

Id love the Penn central e7s, tho I have super liners coming & other items. So unless someone else is paying ill have to pass

@tom21pa posted:

Id love the Penn central e7s, tho I have super liners coming & other items. So unless someone else is paying ill have to pass

I Definitely Understand !!! There’s Always more models I’d like than can afford all at once !!! 🫢😮🫣      🤪🤪🤪

Jonathan,

I look forward to seeing what numbers you pic for the Mopac and T&P. I ordered 10 units. 2 Mopac A-B, 2 T&P A-A, 1 T&P Jenks A, 2 MKT Tx Special A-A, 1 Frisco Meteor A, and because I bought the latest 1948 20th century set a year or so ago a NYC A-B to pull the cars. Glad the FA got pushed to next year as I am in for Mopac, Frisco and MKT.

I want to mix my Mopac/T&P E7's and E8's. And also Jenks with Eagle so I just don't want the same numbers. Another plug for Mopac 7012A-B.

Also, Trainbub I got your email of 7012. Is that from a book it looks familiar? I have several in books and see many online of 7012. Go 7012!!!!!!!

Joe

E7s Reservations Are Now Closed !!!
Stand-by Only. 🤔

@Blue Streak posted:

Jonathan,

I look forward to seeing what numbers you pic for the Mopac and T&P. I ordered 10 units. 2 Mopac A-B, 2 T&P A-A, 1 T&P Jenks A, 2 MKT Tx Special A-A, 1 Frisco Meteor A, and because I bought the latest 1948 20th century set a year or so ago a NYC A-B to pull the cars. Glad the FA got pushed to next year as I am in for Mopac, Frisco and MKT.

I want to mix my Mopac/T&P E7's and E8's. And also Jenks with Eagle so I just don't want the same numbers. Another plug for Mopac 7012A-B.

Also, Trainbub I got your email of 7012. Is that from a book it looks familiar? I have several in books and see many online of 7012. Go 7012!!!!!!!

Joe

Hi Joe,    
The 7012 pic I sent you may or may not be published. It was provided to me by a friend in the MPHS to show me roof color definition. Bottom line - the roof is Eagle Blue and Eagle Roof Grey.  Often, the exhausts are / look dark. That is either shadows or soot. The pic shows the nature of the vents as it is a nose - on pic and you can see the vents from a cross sectional point of view.
Scott typically does multiple #s of engines. I believe it can be driven by the person that orders the largest number of a given diesels / road. MP and T&P had a Lot of units. Most MPs were AB #ed together - but there were some with no corresponding B #s. T&P had no B s. Then there’s the Jenks renumbering. Every engine got renumbered. T&P is pretty straightforward. MP …. Well, you’ll need a scorecard to “understand”.  The B #ing gets Wonky. A to B numbering doesn’t match except for one. It’s just the way it was done.  Their logic sure isn’t mine.😖

Hopefully, care will be taken to make sure an order doesn’t deliver the same engines just with different paint /numbers.
For example-  
7012, 7012B /Eagle paint = 21, 16B /Jenks. You won’t want these pairs of numbered diesels together —-> they are the same engines.

You can reference all this numbering in either  
Missouri Pacific Diesel Power by EuDaly, pg. 42 or  
The Missouri Pacific Lines in Color by Collias, pgs. 136,138.  
These are two Key Must Have MP, T&P reference books IMO.  

Cheers 😉

Trainbub,

You are totally right on the cab numbers. In my hurry to post and get back to work I had forgotten about the 1962 renumbers. I guess because this will really be my first repainted passenger engine - I try to stick to the 50's. In Steve Goen's book I see Jenks paint with original numbers, Eagle with new numbers, etc. I am sure that can be seen in many of my books if I took the time to look. It also Looks like it took a few years to complete paint & renumber. So the single digits will be fine 1-10. I plan on running these in the era of about 1962-1963. Also hope the Jenks cars can be bought as individuals so I can mix them with my Eagle paint. If I was not such a T&P fan I would not be adventuring out of my time era. Hey I did get 2 Mopac SD40-2's What the he__!

Joe

When 3rd Rail says "Encore Run", do they mean that this will be the last time they will produce them?

Kyle - A Fellow "Rail-Nerd"

@The-576-Guy posted:

When 3rd Rail says "Encore Run", do they mean that this will be the last time they will produce them?

Kyle - A Fellow "Rail-Nerd"

Encore run simply means that we lost count of how many times these have been run.  I think technically this is run 5, but that would include the one done for the "Train of Tomorrow" which might have technically a run 2.1, so maybe this is run 4.0?

In short, these will likely run again as the E units always seem to do well every 3 to 6 years.  Of all the 3rd Rail diesels, the E7 has had the most produced since the initial run in 2012 in phase I and phase II variations (modeler language for early and late E7s).

Thanks John, I was quite relived when I read your reply.

Kyle - A Fellow "Rail-Nerd"