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You may recall a few years ago Weaver cataloged several MOW troop sleepers, but canceled many of the road names. One of the canceled road names was NYC. I went on a quest to find an undecorated Weaver troop sleeper. I found one at Peterson, but it had no trucks and was missing the light strip. After purchasing the troop sleeper from Peterson my next quest was to find a set of Allied Cushsioned trucks. My wife found one of the warped frame version of the Weaver troop sleeper on EBAY, so I bought it for the trucks. and the light strip. I used the parts from the warped Weaver car to finish the undecorated troop sleeper from Peterson, and painted and lettered the car for NYC.

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 The troop sleeper car  body went to my future project box.

I purchased three troop sleeper replacement frames from Atlas. I used one  of the new frames on a Pennsy express car that I had rebuild with a homemade plastic frame last year.

Rebuilt plastic frame on a CN express car I purchased for parts.

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Here is the finished plastic frame ready to put on the Pennsy express car.

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Here is the new Atlas frame I built up for the Pennsy express car. The home made plastic frame is now back on the CN express car.

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I then placed an order for parts from Atlas so I could rebuild a Weaver troop kitchen car and the Weaver troop sleeper car body that I had used for parts. Bill at Atlas was a big help with the parts order. The Atlas parts list for the troop sleeper series is very cryptic. The $22 each for the replacement Allied Cushsioned trucks was quite a shock, but I had to have two pair of them. I also ordered window glass, steam line hose, brake line hose, stirrups, steps, a troop sleeper car interior, and various brake system detail parts that did not survive when I salvaged the warped frames. The old Weaver steam pipe will not fit on the new Atlas frame, it is too big for the holes in the new frames. Atlas has replacement steam pipes, but I made my own out of brass wire.

Here are a few pictures of the troop sleeper project.

Here is the rebuilt frame, painted interior, and the car body shell.

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Here is the car body with new window inserts. I  had to make one of the door window inserts out of one of the side windows, since Atlas did not send me the correct replacement windows for the doors. I was able to re use  one of the door window inserts from the warped frame car body. When assembling the NYC MOW troop sleeper car body I did a really terrible job putting the glass inserts back in the car body. I got glue on many of the window inserts from the original undecorated car body, so I had to cannibalize the window insert form the warped frame car.   The warped frame troop sleeper received new window inserts.

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Here is the rebuilt troop sleeper after the frame was rebuilt with new, brake detail parts, window inserts, stirrups, steps, and steam line hose  / steam pipe were replaced. The trucks are the new high priced Atlas trucks.

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Now its 1944 and the troop kitchen and troop sleeper have been rebuilt after a derailment accident. The cars were rebuilt at the NYC Southern Division shops in Lakeland, TN, sent north on the NYC Southern Division and worked their way onto the Pennsylvania RR. system The last leg of the trip on the Pennsy system for the Troop Kitchen Car  and the Troop Sleeper will be on the end of a Pennsy express train headed  to Philadelphia and eventually to Fort Dix NJ where the two cars will be added to troop trains moving soldiers, sailors, and marines across the country.   A rail fan caught the Pennsy express train behind GG1 4935 on video. He had one of those really expensive color camera that were really hard to come by in 1944.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for looking at the pictures and video. This was the end of my Weaver troop sleeper car rebuilding project.

Thanks,

Richard

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BobbyD,

The original Weaver trucks do not crumble like the frames, but they do break easily at the joint where the truck side frame is mounted to the truck bolster. Three of my Weaver Allied Cushioned trucks have broken at the joint. I believe one of the trucks on the warped troop sleeper arrived broken. I was able to find a warped frame version of a CN express car for a reasonable price, so I bought it for the trucks, and it showed up with a broken truck. Gilly  here on the forum sent me a truck that he had repaired with what looks to be JB weld. I used it to finish up the home made frame I built to get my Pennsy express car back into service last year.

When I was mounting the Pennsy express car to its new frame I had another Weaver truck break when I turned it in order to get to one of the screw holes.  The CN express car got the home made frame, but now it is short a truck again.

The new Atlas Allied Cushsioned trucks are completely redesigned versions of the Weaver trucks. They only come with roller pick ups installed with wires attached. The new Atlas undecorated Troop Kitchen car project was my first experience with the new Atlas trucks. That is when I decided to purchase two sets new Atlas trucks for my Weaver Troop Kitchen and Troop Sleeper car rebuilding  projects. After all of this truck switching around I am left with one usable original Weaver truck and three broken weaver trucks. Just for fun I may try to glue those Weaver trucks back to together again.

It has been a very costly project. Those new Atlas trucks are $22 each, not a pair!

Richard

 

 

 

 

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BobbyD,

The original Weaver trucks do not crumble like the frames, but they do break easily at the joint where the truck side frame is mounted to the truck bolster. Three of my Weaver Allied Cushioned trucks have broken at the joint. I believe one of the trucks on the warped troop sleeper arrived broken.

I bought one of the Atlas converted troop sleepers (NYC express car) and it arrived with the bolster broken between the center and the side frame.  I sent it back to Atlas for warranty repair and it has performed well since they returned it to me.  I thought it was a little cheap on the part of Atlas that they required me to pay for shipping a defective product back to them for repair, but they did the work promptly and the car is now working as intended.

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Wow Number 90,

That is the first I have heard of one of the new Atlas Allied Cushsioned trucks failing.

I have three sets of the  new trucks - one set that came with the undecorated / un assembled  Atlas troop kitchen car, and two sets that I ordered for the Weaver Troop Kitchen and Troop sleeper car projects.

Atlas only sales the Allied Cushioned trucks complete with  roller pickups. They do not sale trucks without rollers for the express cars. I was not looking forward to reassembling the Weaver trucks with roller pick ups for the Weaver Troop Kitchen car that I was rebuilding with an Atlas frame. Those Weaver Allied Cushsioned trucks with rollers are a real pain to put back together and subject to breaking. That is why I decided to buy new Atlas trucks for the Weaver Troop Kitchen and Troop Sleeper projects. I am glad I did because one of the  Weaver trucks I put on a Pennsy express car broke when I was screwing down the car body to the frame. I had to use one of the trucks I removed from the Weaver Kitchen car went it's frame fell apart.

Here are pictures of my broken Weaver trucks. I also saved the bolsters from two broken center sills that snapped in two before I could disassemble the warped frames. Who know, the bolsters may come in handy some day, if they do not disintegrate into dust before I find a use for them. Notice that Weaver changed the design of the truck bolster at some point.  

 

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The truck with both side frames broken off is a goner.

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I am sorry to hear about your Atlas NYC express car. Replacing the truck is really simple, only one screw to remove. I wonder way Bill didn't just ask you to send the broken truck back to him, and he could have sent a new truck to you. Shipping these highly detailed cars back and forward just increases the risk of more damage. I am glad to hear that Atlas took care of you.

Richard.

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