Shays are now due in January so mostly Likely February.
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Yes... I saw that last night. Charlie Ro now has the Shays due in his store around 1/3/2018. So a bunch of Lionel stuff originally slated for November/December has slipped into 2018. Poof... Just like that. I guess all our wallets won't be taking as bad a hit this December afterall.
It's amazing how fast months go by in our little corner of the world though. I just received a NYC S2 today (12/4) that I had pre-ordered from Pat's Trains, and the shipping carton had 8/15/2017 marked as the date-of-manufacture -- almost 4 months ago already.