bad soundset load?fixed

I doubt the sound set was hacked, more likely you have a bad copy or just a poor signal to the locomotive?

Are you doing this on a programming track?  No other locomotives or anything on the tracks?

From the no click of the relay, I'd say it may have been dying and now it's dead.

Are you sure you are getting AC input?  No loose internal connectors?  G

 I'll have to go back inside. I walked away after spending two days on it. It gets tuff when things go bad.

 I took a brand new engine out of the box and it would not load to the system. I found it was on address four which the system thought was already loaded. For some reason it does not tell me anymore. I have to find out each time what's the problem. So the system thought that this F7 was a dash 8 that I had. I had to move the dash 8 to a different address and then it loaded the F7. Too many engines????

 I had done all this for the Triplex which was an address #2. I moved an engine out of address 2 and the triplex still would not load. I'm suspecting some type of battery issue?

 Will an engine load if the battery is dead? I'll have to test and see what type of charge it has when I get it running again.

No it doesn't have the power to complete the transfer after shutdown.  G

 How do I recover the board if that's what happened? Would the board come back if I swap out a battery or BCR2?

 Just guessing for now as I haven't opened it up. I need a cool off period!

Start over with good battery.

Will an engine load if the battery is dead?    I think so. well maybe not if the battery is dead but I've loaded  sound files with no battery at all using the loader previous to the recent up grade.

  where are you now joe..... Put your ear  close, I think you need to hear that faint relay click before you can go much further.

 When I walked away, I heard nothing. No click no amp draw on the meter. nothing. I have to take it apart again and start over. Make sure that the board is at least receiving power and stuff. I did notice that when the loader had finished the engine started like it should have. Then, when I killed the track power to cycle the system like I always do, the engine quit immediately? Usually it would go thru shut down, right?

 I get so into fixing stuff, that when this happens, I have to take a break or I'll snap!!

I don't know why I even try. I'm not the right guy for this.

Joe,

Usually it would go thru shut down, right?

Yes, it would, unless the engine's battery was dead.

 Alright, there's someone messing with me!! ????????

I got the engine on it's side, with the sets of drivers pulled out of the shell. I attached DC voltage to the pickups to see if there's any click at all. The $%^&*( thing fires up right next to my ear!

I admit it. I jumped.

Killed the power and it went thru just a short bit of the blowdown sequence. I have to test the battery for voltage. I've got to go in deeper and see what failed. Seems like there still might be some type of short or draw pulling something down. The board worked in a quick test in another engine the other day. I should have completely tested it. I stopped when it fired up thinking it was OK. I'm not sure if it's in some type of protect from a short or the battery is getting drawn down?? I think this one is getting out of my league. I will be contacting U soon G! More wires to test first.

  Funny there's no excessive amp draw? I put a 5 amp fuse inline for testing and that stayed OK. Never saw the meters move much. How did the board recover when it was completely dead? I still have to test all the power pick-up traces.

 I'll have to try a BCR2 and see what she does? I'm not sure of a spare battery's quality. I don't have a test rig and don't want to pull my fleet apart to find known good parts. This one is kicking me again!! Sorry for the long, winding story.

 Maybe the battery is failing under load???

Battery shouldn't prevent start up unless a dead short.  Something is loose.  Shake it twice, stir it once, and see if that fixes it

It has to be a wiring issue, or maybe the contacts for picking up track power (broken terminal wire) maybe?  G

 Thanks G. Probably is those....all of those and more.

It shorted once and burned up a trace. Never found why it did that.

Lots of things to fix. There were no sliders attached. Someone removed them. I need to get some springs for them and work on fixing the fact their mounting post's holes are stripped. I thought I could get her running first. Yeah, right.

 This is going to take some serious time and effort.....and some help.

What traces burned up?  I recently was asked to fix an upgrade gone bad.  It was easier to take it apart and start over.   The tender should be the easiest to get right with the data I sent you.  Work the engine with the info for switch and 7, 12 and 5 pin.  When your ready to tackle smoke and whistle smoke I can give you the rest.  The PS-2 board is wired the same as O.  G

 There are small circuit boards in the bottom of each driver set up. They connect each power pick-up along the path. The slider shoes and the axle carbon brushes attach to these traces. The middle main driver set's board must see the heaviest current near the end of the trace where it goes into a plug harness and off to the PS2 boards. About an inch of the trace on the black wire burned to a crisp there. I'll take a picture the next time I have the drivers apart.

charged the battery for two days. engine loaded right into DCS system. It changed address to #69.

You might be a candidate for a new battery.

That would do it.  G