The instructions seem complicated in the Legacy control system book to lash up two engines.Can't I just program two Legacy engines with the same number as long as they are positioned in the same direction?Nick
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yes, but if you use crew talk both will play and not at the same speed.
and if you only want one horn you would have to turn one off manually.
bigdodgetrain posted:yes, but if you use crew talk both will play and not at the same speed.
and if you only want one horn you would have to turn one off manually.
And in Lashup (MU) mode couplers work properly, as well as lighting. Also when in a MU you can actually choose the direction of all the engine for more realistic operations.
You can also break the consist by just addressing any of the engines in the consist without reprogramming. Note that older TMCC locos needed to be assigned to TR 0 or the engine still thinks it's in the consist even when not.
I gave my TMCC engines the same number and they all worked fine. A little tweaking with the headlights or so but no problems.
I personally didn't find Legacy train building that hard. I've done it several times.
1) Press the TR button, then enter the ID number for the train you want to create.
2) Press the Info button.
3) Select Build.
4) Type in the ID of the lead locomotive, push the direction button if you want it to go backwards, then push Add.
5) Type the ID of the next locomotive, push the direction button if you want it to go backwards, or the horn button if you want the train horn or bell to sound from this locomotive, or the mic button if you want crew talk to come from this locomotive, then push Add.
6) Repeat step 5 for each locomotive you are adding to the train.
7) If you are adding any of the sound cars or command controllable cranes, enter them by also typing in the ID and then the Add button.
8) When all items have been added to the train, push the Set button, and wait until they all blow their horns, and you are now good to go.
Note for when a locomotive is in more than one train, it'll only respond to the last train it was added to. To run a different train, you simply Press the TR button, enter the ID, press the info button and then the Set button and now you are good to go for that train. I do this mainly to allow my VL Reefer to be run behind more locomotive then just my VL BB.
SINCLAIR Now that you have explained ..it sounds easy.I am going to print this out and do it.I will let you know how I make out.Thanks a very lot.Nick
Thanks SINCLAIR I have been able to lash up my Legacy locomotives using the directions you gave me.Once you go through it a few times it is easy.Is there a diffrent method for TMCC locomotives?I cannot get two Atlas MP-15 TMCC switcher locomotives to lash up.The Lagacy remote says "programed"but the engines won't blow their horns.Nick
I honestly haven't tried TMCC locomotives with the Cab-2 remote, only the Cab-1 remote. I'd make sure the leashup is set as TMCC and not Legacy, as the TMCC locomotives will ignore the lashup programming if it's a Legacy command. To check, push TR, enter in the ID, then push the INFO button. It should list the Head locomotive, locomotive type, control and sound. If the Control says LEG, the TMCC locomotives will not work. What sets that is how the head locomotive is entered in the remote. So make sure you have the TMCC locomotives entered as TMCC and not Legacy.
sinclair posted:I honestly haven't tried TMCC locomotives with the Cab-2 remote, only the Cab-1 remote. I'd make sure the leashup is set as TMCC and not Legacy, as the TMCC locomotives will ignore the lashup programming if it's a Legacy command. To check, push TR, enter in the ID, then push the INFO button. It should list the Head locomotive, locomotive type, control and sound. If the Control says LEG, the TMCC locomotives will not work. What sets that is how the head locomotive is entered in the remote. So make sure you have the TMCC locomotives entered as TMCC and not Legacy.
I will give it a try.Thanks,Nick
A ha! I was using the old TMCC manual. I forgot to look @ the Legacy book, an error that I will soon rectify....
In which 'category' is the blue Cab1L?
phil gresho posted:
In which 'category' is the blue Cab1L?
legacy
Nick;
I don't have any Atlas engines, but have quite a few Lionel TMCC engines that I have lashed up. After you create the lashup in the Cab-2, as has been suggested, hit the info button until you get to the sound page. There are several choices (Railsounds 4, 5, Legecy, etc.). I would check to be sure that the info screen matches whatever sounds the Atlas engines come with.
Cab 1 Remote. All engines on track. Track powered. All Front head lights on/indicating forward motion.
Lead engine facing forward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, F, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Rear engine facing forward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, R, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Rear engine facing backward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, R, DIR, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
All other engines facing forward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Check 1: Front head light on, all other head lights off. Push the DIR button, Front head light off, rear/tail head light on. Unit train should move in Reverse. Push the DIR button again Unit train should move Forward. Check for wheels moving the wrong direction.
Check 2: Hit Front Coupler button. Only the front couple of the unit train should work. Hit the Rear Coupler button. Only the Rear Coupler should work.
On occasion I have set the Momentum of each engine before creating a Consist. They should all have the same momentum setting.
Done with the Consist/Unit train, assign each engine to Train (TR 0). TR (Train No. 0), ENG Engine Number ##, Set, a horn/whistle will blow.
Page 22 through 27, The Complete Guide to Command Control. Owners manual, that came with the original Cab1/Command Base set. Click on the highlighted phrase to link the Lionel on-line document for download.
Click on this Photobucket video of a (5) Atlas engine consist.
https://s175.photobucket.com/u...ts/VID00009.mp4.html
Or
Apparently the world has changed. ??? Photobucket and this forum no longer compatible???
bigdodgetrain posted:phil gresho posted:
In which 'category' is the blue Cab1L?
legacy
The Cab1-L is a mix of both. It's Legacy in that it talks to the Legacy base and has a quilable horn/whistle button. Otherwise it acts and works just as a TMCC Cab-1, so the old TMCC Cab-1 lashup program instructions apply.
bigdodgetrain: Thanks a lot!
@Mike CT posted:Cab 1 Remote. All engines on track. Track powered. All Front head lights on/indicating forward motion.
Lead engine facing forward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, F, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Rear engine facing forward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, R, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Rear engine facing backward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, R, DIR, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
All other engines facing forward. TR (Train No. 1 to 9), ENG Engine Number ##, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Done with the Consist/Unit train, assign each engine to Train (TR 0). TR (Train No. 0), ENG Engine Number ##, Set, a horn/whistle will blow.
Page 22 through 27, The Complete Guide to Command Control. Owners manual, that came with the original Cab1/Command Base set. Click on the highlighted phrase to link the Lionel on-line document for download.
Click on this Photobucket video of a (5) Atlas engine consist.
Tried this with a friends recent Atlas F7's. He had been running them as the same number. We cannot get it to work with a Cab-1L. Never get the horn blast and TR# doesn't work. Must it be done with a Cab-2 instead? Thanks!
I haven't tried this but to delete an engine from a tmcc lashup, an engine reset should work right?
Rod
I read somewhere that you had to assign it engine "0" Rod. I'm trying to find that.
@BobbyD posted:I read somewhere that you had to assign it engine "0" Rod. I'm trying to find that.
Thanks guys. Yes I have the recommmended procedure for setting the engine to TR=0, and it works fine. I just figured that an engine feature reset might also work, and its easier, without the need to refer anywhere. I plan to try it out pretty soon. I have given up trying to lashup early tmcc engines with Odyssey I. They don't play well together! 
Rod
Yep, assigning it to TR-0 clears it. The engine reset, OTOH, doesn't clear it, at least not consistently.
@BobbyD posted:Tried this with a friends recent Atlas F7's. He had been running them as the same number. We cannot get it to work with a Cab-1L. Never get the horn blast and TR# doesn't work. Must it be done with a Cab-2 instead? Thanks!
FYI… on the CAB-1L the instructions are different…
Lead engine facing forward. TR, then Train No. 01 to 09, then Engine Number ##, F, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Rear engine facing forward. TR, then Train No. 01 to 09, then Engine Number ##, R, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Rear engine facing backward. TR, then Train No. 01 to 09, then Engine Number ##, R, DIR, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
All other engines facing forward. TR, then Train No. 01 to 09, then Engine No. ##, Set a horn/whistle will blow.
Given engine #56 facing forward, and engine #57 facing backward, key sequence, e.g.
TR, 0, 1, 5, 6, SET (horn blast) TR, 0, 1, 5, 7, DIR, SET (horn blast)
To clear the above train… TR, 0, 0, 5, 6, SET, TR, 0, 0, 5, 7, SET
