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It occurred to me as I used my last spare smoke PCB, that since I do a lot of smoke unit repairs and upgrades specifically for steam, that maybe it made sense to make my own PCB.  Many times for upgrades I don't use the power source, so it would be nice to simply remove those components.  Wait:  I can simply leave them off.   Other little things, I made the intake hole 1/4" since I always drill that out anyway.  I also removed the jumper between the two pins of the 3-pin connector.  This is useful so you can power the 5V supply independent of the smoke resistor. This also allows you to use the 5V supply independently, this eliminates the need for me to supply a separate supply for some tasks.  I also isolated the smoke resistor totally from the ground, there's no real reason to have all that extra copper doing basically nothing.

So here it is, the replacement smoke PCB for standard Lionel 610-8057-200 rectangular smoke units.

I put in an order at JLCPCB for some of these, so it'll be a few weeks before I get to test one out.  I don't anticipate any issues, I insured the holes liked up perfectly with the stock PCB, which would be the major issue I can foresee.

Boards are in, look great, here's the Gerber Files for anyone to duplicate them.

Rectangular Smoke PCB Gerber Files.zip

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To Gunnrunner John...

Where would this amazing hobby be without you & your knowledge!

Please one day write a book or make a video of all of your amazing fixes throughout the years-

It would be a shame not to have as a legacy of one of the most intelligent men this hobby ever had...

                                                                                                                       Kudos to you Sir!-

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@Sal V posted:

To Gunnrunner John...

Where would this amazing hobby be without you & your knowledge!

Please one day write a book or make a video of all of your amazing fixes throughout the years-

It would be a shame not to have as a legacy of one of the most intelligent man this hobby ever had...

                                                                                                                       Kudos to you Sir!-

Ditto on the kudos!

John, what do you use for gaskets? I don't see any available for that smoke unit...I think it's 610-8057-200.

I broke a gasket making the hole bigger is why I asked. No emergency since I don't need the unit just yet, but wondering.

The PCB board house finished my boards in about four days, but the Chinese sat on them for almost two weeks before the turned them loose, they just arrived today.  Preliminary measurements and checkout look great, I have no doubt they'll work.  They save me a little work each time as I almost always remove the 27 ohm resistor and install a 20 ohm one, or an 8 ohm for Legacy.  For any upgrades, I also drill out the fan intake hole.  This way I get to start with the hole already drilled and I don't have to remove the resistor to install the proper one for my application.

Having the 5V supply separate from the smoke resistor allows me to occasionally use that as a aux 5VDC supply since it's right there and doesn't take any additional space.

25 boards for $10.90 shipped, not too bad...

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@Rod Stewart posted:

Very neat John, nice idea. So do these fit the venerable 8057-200 SMU? Any others besides? A cool part about this is you could build up 3-4 each in 18 or 8 ohm ahead of time and have them all set to just drop in. The price was certainly right.

Yep, they were patterned to be an exact fit for the standard Lionel rectangular smoke unit.

@DaveGG posted:
Will these be offered for sale either directly or through other means?

I wasn't planning on it, but I posted the Gerber files for anyone to order some for themselves.  At $10.90 for 25 boards, it's simply not cost effective to try to sell these in a onesie-twosie fashion, the shipping costs would dwarf the board costs.

Gerber files posted to first post in the thread, here's a link to the Gerber files.

Rectangular Smoke PCB Gerber Files.zip

I recommend one of the many overseas PCB makers, since these are large enough to be costly with OSHPark.  Three boards from OSHPark cost $9.90, and 25 boards from JLCPCB cost $10.90 both including shipping costs.  It takes a little longer to get them from overseas, but the wait is profitable.

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