Does Anyone Model/Run European Trains?

John23 posted:

Strummer posted:

Krieglok posted:

Paul Kallus posted:

 

 

 

 

Lionel briefly did a line of hand built 2 rail brass locos and cars, sold as their Smithsonian collection.  As I recall, there was a complete 20th Century Limited pulled by a Dreyfus Hudson; and the German type 52 2-10-0.  Very few were built.  I remember reading that there were only 25 Kriegsloks built in each (2?) paint variation.  All beautifully made.  I'm surprised that one came up on Ebay.

Lionel made the Baureihe 50 and not the Baureihe 52. Both are 2-10-0. The Baureihe 52 is also called Kriegslok.

Regards

Fred

The Lionel model is a beautiful version...albeit 2-rail O-scale and out of price reach.

Do you guys think there is enough demand for MTH to make it in 3-rail O-scale? I think its one of the neater looking European steamers.

Paul Kallus posted:

The Lionel model is a beautiful version...albeit 2-rail O-scale and out of price reach.

Do you guys think there is enough demand for MTH to make it in 3-rail O-scale? I think its one of the neater looking European steamers.

MTH did make a 3 rail German Decapod, and not too long ago.  I forgot which version that they did.  

John23 posted:

Paul Kallus posted:

The Lionel model is a beautiful version...albeit 2-rail O-scale and out of price reach.

Do you guys think there is enough demand for MTH to make it in 3-rail O-scale? I think its one of the neater looking European steamers.

MTH did make a 3 rail German Decapod, and not too long ago.  I forgot which version that they did.  

They did the BR44 in DB and SNCF colors. They also did a scale wheel version of each. They are very hard to find, even on the secondary market.

I have a scale wheel DB version and a SNCF highrail version. Both operate in either two or three rail modes...

Tom

Krieglok posted:

John23 posted:

Paul Kallus posted:

The Lionel model is a beautiful version...albeit 2-rail O-scale and out of price reach.

Do you guys think there is enough demand for MTH to make it in 3-rail O-scale? I think its one of the neater looking European steamers.

MTH did make a 3 rail German Decapod, and not too long ago.  I forgot which version that they did.  

They did the BR44 in DB and SNCF colors. They also did a scale wheel version of each. They are very hard to find, even on the secondary market.

I have a scale wheel DB version and a SNCF highrail version. Both operate in either two or three rail modes...

 

Tom

...pictures...? 

Mark in Oregon

Since I've already posted some photos of European trains in scales other than O, I guess it's ok to post one more:

This is a Rivarossi (#1347) "2811 Prussian P10". Picked it up on eBay for about 50 bucks, I think.

Unlike my Roco-built steamers, this has the motor in the engine proper; yet like those Rocos, this also has fixed tender trucks...I wonder why.

Typical Rivarossi: 3-pole motor, so it's not a "great" runner, but once its moving, it's fine. Really nice die work (again, typical of the brand), and in this lovely paint scheme, those details really stand out.

Mark in Oregon

Strummer posted:

Krieglok posted:

John23 posted:

Paul Kallus posted:

The Lionel model is a beautiful version...albeit 2-rail O-scale and out of price reach.

Do you guys think there is enough demand for MTH to make it in 3-rail O-scale? I think its one of the neater looking European steamers.

MTH did make a 3 rail German Decapod, and not too long ago.  I forgot which version that they did.  

They did the BR44 in DB and SNCF colors. They also did a scale wheel version of each. They are very hard to find, even on the secondary market.

I have a scale wheel DB version and a SNCF highrail version. Both operate in either two or three rail modes...

 

Tom

...pictures...? 

Mark in Oregon

On the previous page, near the bottom. All my DB and SNCF power except my SNCF BR44....

BTW, Mark, Rivarossi makes great looking European trains. Nice engine there!

Tom

Thanks Tom

Here is a car I picked up a while back; I have no idea what it is, except that it's quite nice...and in O (1:45) scale this time!

As you can see, it has a "proper" coupling...

Perhaps one of you can tell us a little more about this brand...

Mark in Oregon

PS: here's one more picture:

Nice Tank car. No idea about who made it.

MTH European stuff as well as most all European O scale is 1/43 or 1/45...

Tom

Strummer posted:

 

Perhaps one of you can tell us a little more about this brand...

Mark in Oregon

 

 

0 Scale Models was a German brand manufactured in China. They made a tank car and a 4-wheel gondola in a large number of liveries in the eighties/nineties. These were nicely detailed all plastic models. I do not know why but production ended after these two products.

Regards

Fred

Strummer posted:

Really nice die work (again, typical of the brand), and in this lovely paint scheme, those details really stand out.

Mark in Oregon

RivaRossi also did some nice European 0 gauge models like this Baureihe 80 in black and in grey:

There French Pacific is also very nice, about the best detailing you can get:

Regards

Fred

Lenz of Germany has produced an excellent example of the BR50 in DB versions with various tender options in two rail. It will set you back about 1500 euros, but well worth it. I love mine and it operates very well. Can't wait until the 38 and 55 come out. I am interested to see how the 38 will compare to my Gebauer all metal 38s.

Mike

There was a show (I believe in the UK) for 'modern image 0 gauge' modelers a couple of days ago:

Actual show footage begins at 1:48 in the above video. There are a couple of other videos from this show, in which Dapol introduced their new British Class 66.

In other news, I picked up an ETS diesel switcher at York. I promise it's not a trend

---PCJ

I recently added this model — a 1:43.5-scale British Railways Class 08 diesel shunter made by Dapol — to my mix of O gauge interests. It’s a 2-rail DC model with decisively scale wheel treads and flanges, so I may have to experiment with certain 3-rail track that has isolated outer rails such as Gargraves and Atlas to see how this British switcher runs.

I have that same engine in BR black...but it is OO scale. I didn’t know Dapol made O scale equipment. Nice!

I suppose it would track okay on three rail if you have Gargraves, Atlas or one of the other square head rail makers...

Tom

Krieglok posted:

 ...snip...  I didn’t know Dapol made O scale equipment.  ...snip... Tom

They just announced a two-rail DC O scale Class 66 a few days ago. Something that I had hoped that MTH would have offered in their two-rail European product line. One of my OO Bachmann Branchline 66s on a friend's HO layout:

Hi everyone, a quick weekend project that was not so quick, from Phoenix Models in the UK, some parts were missing, cost me about a dollar.

Miketg

I've always loved the unique way that European passenger cars and engines look.  I love the wide variety of different looking engines.  I want to get a crocodile engine one of these days. 

I also really like how the steam locos have the red trim on the driving wheels.   Gives them a unique look that is distinctly Europeeing. 

I did recently purchase a really cool boxed seventies HO Roco trainset.  The trainset has the DB engine and 3 passenger coaches in the top layer of the Styrofoam.   There are 4 small freight cars in the lower layer of Styrofoam that are typical European cars, they are small and have 2 wheel trucks on the front and back of the cars.     The box and owner's manual are all in German.  Appears to be a set sold new in Germany that somehow ended up here.   I was happy, paid 25 for the set complete in the box.   

I also like how a lot of the European modern high speed trains look, just look so sleek and nifty. 

Hello everyone,

I have been real busy lately and have had very little time for modelling. I finally had some time this weekend to  build the seller's stand included in the German Spur 0, o scale, magazine.

Miketg

Here is my newest European O scale model...

Hi everyone, just thought I would add a couple of photos from my layout, Georgenstadt. Nothing exciting, but given the events of the last month, nothing exciting just might be good for us right now.

Miketg

Miketg posted:

Hi everyone, just thought I would add a couple of photos from my layout, Georgenstadt. Nothing exciting, but given the events of the last month, nothing exciting just might be good for us right now.

Miketg

Very nice.  Do you have any overall views of your layout?

Miketg posted:

I'd like to know more about this model, please.

SZ

Hi Mallard,

Thank you and glad you like my layout.

On some of the earlier pages there are moRr photos and if you do a search under Georgenstadt there are both pictures and videos of the layout. Basically the layout is ten by 20 feet and all sectional. 

Steinzeit, the passenger car is a Fulgurex/Tenshodo model of a pre-war 28 series passenger car. 

Miketg

Miketg posted:

Hi everyone, a quick weekend project that was not so quick, from Phoenix Models in the UK, some parts were missing, cost me about a dollar.

Miketg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAZSjpAL884

ex-CCCP end-cab diesel engine in O gauge to be seen today in Estonia in a different painting scheme...

...and here together with another ex-CCCP twin-engine in 3-rail operation on public display...

bobotech posted:

I've always loved the unique way that European passenger cars and engines look.  I love the wide variety of different looking engines.  I want to get a crocodile engine one of these days. 

I also really like how the steam locos have the red trim on the driving wheels.   Gives them a unique look that is distinctly Europeeing. 

I did recently purchase a really cool boxed seventies HO Roco trainset.  The trainset has the DB engine and 3 passenger coaches in the top layer of the Styrofoam.   There are 4 small freight cars in the lower layer of Styrofoam that are typical European cars, they are small and have 2 wheel trucks on the front and back of the cars.     The box and owner's manual are all in German.  Appears to be a set sold new in Germany that somehow ended up here.   I was happy, paid 25 for the set complete in the box.   

I also like how a lot of the European modern high speed trains look, just look so sleek and nifty. 

 

Bobotech, like this?

I use this Pico Croc to pull my 5 LGB Orient Express Salon Cars around the backyard.  This is in G scale so the whole train is about 17ft long.  Nice diversion from my American trains.

Chris Sheldon

One of the things I plan on doing in the future is to kitbash my own model of the Jamaican Railway Corporation (JRC) system that I rode on a few times as a teen in the late 70's/early 80's before it went belly up in 1992.  I don't recall the year, but one time I got to ride the train by myself from Kingston out to the rural town of Mandeville to visit relatives.  My parents and siblings drove by car and met me there. I felt so grown up.  Different time then, can't do that now.   Jamaica, being a British territory, had the vast majority of their railway equipment from the UK, although it did use a couple US and Canadian diesels.  Currently, the rails are only used for bauxite ore mining & shipping purposes with modern US diesel equipment.

1-Purchase and repaint the London Midland & Scottish (LMS) Railway Stanier passenger coaches that Lionel uses for its Harry Potter set to the JRC two-tone colors of green on the lower half, grey (spelled the UK way LOL) on the upper half.  The JRC used these "carriages" in the 1950s. 

2-UK company Metro Cammell manufactured DMU’s that the JRC used in the 1960s for passenger traffic thru the end of the service. Can’t find any European O Gauge versions of those, so will have to use MTH Budd RDC’s and make do with those.  Those had the same green and grey color scheme originally and then in the 1980’s it became blue and grey.  

The above image is from the MTH website: https://mthtrains.com/sites/de...mages/30-20516-1.jpg

3-Can’t find the English Electric (E-E) diesel locomotives used in the 1970s that I want in O Gauge either so will be using the Lionel Alco RS-3, which is the closest that I could find.

So after everything is said and done, the only “actual” Euro model that I will be using will be the LMS Staniers.

I have a book on Jamaican railways (currently packed away somewhere) with color photos that I will be using to copy and make the decals from. Would love to scan photos of those images in the book and then post them here, but that's a no no.

Below are some images that are not my photos but are links and internet photos of some Metro Cammell DMU’s in JRC livery.  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...6949@N06/39928125243

http://metcam.co.uk.nstempintl.com/pics/jama211.jpg

http://metcam.co.uk.nstempintl.com/pics/jam211.gif

Amfleet25124 posted:

 

2-UK company Metro Cammell manufactured DMU’s that the JRC used in the 1960s for passenger traffic thru the end of the service. Can’t find any European O Gauge versions of those, ...

For your information, I am planning my own RS-8 project (Alco- and MLW-built) in O gauge, among others also both JRC versions (#114 & #132)...

BetaNuSigmaPhi posted:

Amfleet25124 posted:

 

2-UK company Metro Cammell manufactured DMU’s that the JRC used in the 1960s for passenger traffic thru the end of the service. Can’t find any European O Gauge versions of those, ...

For your information, I am planning my own RS-8 project (Alco- and MLW-built) in O gauge, among others also both JRC versions (#114 & #132)...

Awesome.  I wasn't aware of the RS-8.  Will have to look for those in O Gauge also as those were actually used in Jamaica based on the photos you provided.

Does anybody know the manufacturers of the European O gauge tankcars below....?

@BetaNuSigmaPhi posted:

Does anybody know the manufacturers of the European O gauge tankcars below....?

From left to right:  Darstaed [ tinplate ];  MBW [ Krupp pattern, scale ];  Merkur [ tinplate ].

Best, SZ

My DB auto carrier...

Tom

Just finished this yesterday, a ssy 45 German flat car kit originally made by WMK of Vienna, Austria. Also added a photo of a flower cart kit that I built from a kit included with SNM magazine from Germany. Miketg

@Miketg posted:

Just finished this yesterday, a ssy 45 German flat car kit originally made by WMK of Vienna, Austria. Also added a photo of a flower cart kit that I built from a kit included with SNM magazine from Germany. Miketg

Nice short flatcar, there are also longer flatcars from other manufacturers with 6 axles for heavy military load. SNM is the leading German O scale magazine in paper format available for subscription. 

@Steinzeit posted:

From left to right:  Darstaed [ tinplate ];  MBW [ Krupp pattern, scale ];  Merkur [ tinplate ].

Best, SZ

You are the real expert. I wouldn't have guessed better...

Do any of you use CityBuilder kits?

Good evening everyone

Miketg

Beautiful job, Mike.

I like all the brake lines. etc. It will look really sharp when painted. Can't wait to see it!

Lad