DZ-1000, Good or Not so Good?

I've never heard of problems with the DZ-1000 I always heard of problems with the DZ-2500 

There is good reason Steve at Ross puts in DZ-1000 machines; they are reliable and mate well with his quality products. Yes I do-- overbore/Graham

Ross are top American made quality switches ( IMO the best out there) and they work well with the reliable switch DZ-1000's machines.  You can't go wrong with that combo.  My layout uses the Caboose Industries ground throws mainly for sidings that see little use and are mostly for show.

Thanks to all of you. Ross with DZ-1000's it will be, and I am very glad about that.

FYI, there was never a question of the Ross equipment. It will be all Ross switches, track, and track bed.

Oh, BTW, I have met Steve. I had talked with him several times on the phone, and finally took a trip out to his factory back in May 2016. Really great guy, and I picked up a loop of track while I was there.

Can the DZ-1000's run off of track power, or should they be run on dedicated accessory power?

That is all we use.  Highly recommended.

Use dedicated accessory power.  

They work great.  

Use separate power. 

I had a few DZ 2500. Pain in the butt. Pulled them and replaced with the 1000

Thanks again guys.

From the small print ( at my age all print is small ) 12-14vac and per prior responder, DEDICATED POWER SOURCE and 22-24 ga tinned stranded wires SUGGESTED. This wire may  also easily be found in serious marine supply stores.   overbore/Graham

These are DZ1000 switch machines run by a Lionel SC-2 switch controller, Command Base/Cab1 handheld.   Click on the triangle to access a Photobucket video.   Accessory  18 volts AC.

Lionel SC-2 controller. It can handle (6) switch moves. The cross-overs are two switch machines controlled simultaneous.

There are also DZ 1002 lighted push buttons.

And DZ 1008 relays, mounted under the table, used for power routing.

From all reports, the DZ-1000 is a very reliable switch machine. 

Because I run TMCC, I have used (and will continue to use) DZ-2500's.  The "A" variation had some problems, but Dennis Zander (Z-Stuff) stands behind his products and replaced the faulty ones.  The more recent, reliable version is the "C" variant.  My PRR Panhandle 2 will also use DZ-2500s, a mix of older working DZ-2500A's and the DZ-2500Cs for the newer switches.

George

I've a little collection of dead Z-1000 motors.  Have over 60 turnouts powered by them.  Have one, sometimes two, go bad in a month of operating.

If not used for a while, they don't work very well until snapped back and forth quite a few times.  If the voltage isn't set just right, the points bounce leaving it half-thrown.  Still, they are the best option for ROSS turnouts.

I will add that the SZ1000 makes a nice Klik when the button is pressed, and can also be wired for non-derailing with ross switches.  I think the DZ2500C is also a great switch motor with a slow motion action....I would think either would be fine. 

Mike CT posted:

These are DZ1000 switch machines run by a Lionel SC-2 switch controller, Command Base/Cab1 handheld.   Click on the triangle to access a Photobucket video.   Accessory  18 volts AC.

Lionel SC-2 controller. It can handle (6) switch moves. The cross-overs are two switch machines controlled simultaneous.

 

There are also DZ 1002 lighted push buttons.

And DZ 1008 relays, mounted under the table, used for power routing.

Our setup for 3-way ROSS turnout using relays.

Hi,  on the layout I'm planning I will use a Ross + a DZ 1000.  I plan on using a separate power supply for the DZ1000's. Sometime, somewhere I acquired a pair of 1033's which is below my useable wattage range for engines.  I plan on hooking these two units up in parallel and in phase to supply power to my DZ1000's.  What problems do you foresee??? 

Best regards

Tommy

Kerrigan posted:

I've a little collection of dead Z-1000 motors.  Have over 60 turnouts powered by them.  Have one, sometimes two, go bad in a month of operating.

If not used for a while, they don't work very well until snapped back and forth quite a few times.  If the voltage isn't set just right, the points bounce leaving it half-thrown.  Still, they are the best option for ROSS turnouts.

A friend of mine had the same experience while testing DZ-1000 motors with Ross switches.  Happily, he discovered this during testing before the layout was built.  He scrapped the DZ's and went with Tortoise motors for his layout.  These are THE best option for Ross turnouts.  They always throw, can easily be wired for LED indication of throw and are a little less expensive than DZ-1000's.  Plus, they mount under the table so the table top view is much more realistic.  Tortoise is the gold standard for powered switch operation in all scales.