Footprint of lionel 164 log loader

Certainly, Ed

28" long.

3.25" wide.....except for a short stretch in the back with the 3 binding posts which push it to 3.5".

Peter

Peter,

Thanks for the good info.  The depth works out great for the space I have.  I am kind of surprised at the 28" length.  A lot longer than I thought. But it will still look good along with my sawmill and associated buildings.

Thank you,

Ed

I think Peter has described the 364 log loader.  it sits along side a single siding loading and unloading at opposite ends of the loader.  The 164 sits between two tracks 15" apart. Unloading from one side and loading from the other.  It is about 10" wide as I recall. 

9"H x 11 1/4"W x 10 3/4"L

OMG....sorry.....must be York Fever!!!!!!!

Peter

for fail proof operation, allow 12 3/4" from the outside rail of the dump side to the outside rail of the loading side.

I have had a 164 on my layouts for last 50 years and have tried all kinds of log cars options including the MTH. I still like a strings of PW Lionel cars. They are the right size, reliable, and look great with the cast base. I just used a little shoe polish on the blued surface of the metal plate that the logs sit on so it does not shine when there are no logs in the car.

Why not just build a log & lumber operation. I have limited space so my attempt at this is small and along the mainline. Note that I have the 164 and the sawmill are side by side and I have the operating tracks functioning together so when I trigger one, both dump. These cars, in black. are cheap at about $20. I have a bunch and every once in a while make a big string and operate logs to my hearts content.

Hugh,

Great tip on using PW cars.  Over the years I've picked up 4 of them, some of which need some care.  I will have to dig them out and fix them up.

I also have the sawmill and plan on putting them together with an Atlas lumber yard kit. It is nice to see how it looks on a nice layout.

Thanks,

Ed

Ed, when you finish finding room for all the lumber yard, find some siding space for your favorite coal devices. The 97 is the same story as the 164 and I really love the way the MTH loader works with the ramp and 397.

Same story also on the PW 3469 coal cars. Cheap and in a string of 6-8 look fantastic. The ramp hoppers work great and because I use DCS, my control up & down the ramp is perfect. All the unload tinplate tracks are controlled from the DCS AIU's and the remote.

Hugh,

You must be a mind reader. I started rearranging some things to make room for a lumber operation as well as a coaling operation.  I still have  the PW coal loader that I got for Christmas in the 50's, and also the modern MTH loader.  I don't  know why but I never paid attention to the coal ramp.  I am definitely going to look into that and work it in.

Thanks  for the great ideas and especially for the pictures.  

Ed

Nicely done Hugh. About as good as it can get considering how toylike it is. 

I had the #164 on my layout for the longest time. Loved the way it operated.  But as trains became more prototypical, the #164 became an albatross in desperate need of a facelift to fit in.

I picked up the command controlled version on a blowout a few years ago (the double ugly one with blue base). Like you, someday I hope to improve its appearance and put it back on the layout.

Joe