I have a force 10 chip. What does it do? What is the correct procedure?
Also, same questions for force 11 chip?
Thanks.
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Know one really knows anymore. I do not think QSI software configuration control was very good, and they are out of the business and the person who ran it died. MTH moved on once PS-2 was released. G
GGG posted:Know one really knows anymore. I do not think QSI software configuration control was very good, and they are out of the business and the person who ran it died. MTH moved on once PS-2 was released. G
Boy I'll tell ya, that's a sad story.
I have the FORCE 10 and FORCE 11 chips, haven't quite figured what I do with them. 
I can tell you they fixed one PS/1 board, but I'm not sure why. I had exhausted all my other options and I figured "what the heck", stick it in there. To my amazement, it came to life! I've never had a similar success after that. 
I had access to several different MTH service manuals and things changed over time in those manuals in how those chips were used. I do think they are software versions, that would be used depending on what version of the top board you had, and would variation of software in the chip.
Hence the solution for an old early version 93 to 96, could require upgrade to the newer top board with new chip with update software.
This was QSI system.
I am starting to see guys send in stuff that is MTH engine with QSI 3000 stuff, or some version of the TAS or DD TMCC conversion that are no longer working.
Really can't do anything as all 3 companies out of business. QSI in the O line ProtoSounds.
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I can still get some of the TAS stuff working, I have some parts. I occasionally come across a working TAS motherboard, useful to hang on to for spares. The DD stuff I see less often, so far I haven't needed any non-Lionel parts for those.
I guess you will have to tell your customers either convert loco to A non powered unit or upgrade to PS3.
George and John, the fix1011 chip is about the only other one next to the Make PS chip that you should ever need to use. That is the chip you want to use when you have lights but no sound or motion. I have used this often and it gets it done. Way back when I first went to MTH school, these chips were highly protected and we had to sign for them.
George you are correct on that early board issue. The pre 96 board was 2 meg and after 96 it was a 4 meg board. That transition period was a pita as the pre 96 needed a pure sine wave transformer.
Well, the Make PS and Fix 1011 chips are all I routinely use. I also drop the F3 test chip in a non-working board, that usually tells me if getting the newer software chip from MTH will bring it back to life if the fix chips didn't.
