Fueling rig help

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/147-5500

"& 2 Snyder Fuel Cranes"
seems like this is what I'm after. Joe

Weaver has done a nice job with the sanding part of it.

http://www.snyderequip.com/104-hp-2-crane.html

They even give an exact drawing of this rig on their site! If I'm doing this correct, the pipes are 1/16". How can they make a N scale version of this??? It uses a 3" pipe so what would that be in N scale!

So I bought a bunch of pipe fittings that are way too large. I will reduce the sizes and make the rig about 5" high oa. Having this drawing will help greatly. It would be cool if someone made a moveable model RTR. Looks like my scratchbuilding skills will be forced into action. Joe

Mike, I considered the Weaver sand tower. It looks great. I bought a Max Gray version. Trouble is I believe they are for the older eras. A modern version set up for diesels would be great for me. I have to do so much modifying, I might just as well start from scratch. Joe

Here's a quick mockup with 1/16" wire. That would equal the 3" pipe actually used.

I'm going to look through my HO scale stuff for my unopened diesel fueling and sanding rig. I bet it's oversized. Joe

Joe,

What did you use as a nozzle in the mock-up. I am currently thinking through my fueling ramp and copied the earlier picture you provided. Thanks! However, I am hung up on how to do the nozzle. I have a 4 station Overland brass sanding tower made around 2002, and talked with Brian Marsh at Overland about sources a the tower has some nice nozzles, but he could not help.

Thanks in advance!

Dave

Dave, can you post a pic of that rig?

Yeah, I got mine in a modified Max Gray rig. They look great. I don't know who made them. I need to put a special grommet on them to look like the drawing. Then I think they'll be perfect. I've never seen a real one up close.
I needed more nozzles so I just opened the Stewart Products HO double track service rig. The details look oversized for HO. I'm going to use them for my O gauge. They even look large still!
I got my extra hose from Hobby Lobby in the jewelry dept. It's called Pony Bead Lacing. It's super flex, and it's cheap! $1.99 for 5 yards. Joe

Kind of sad, these nozzles are the way I got them. Someone may have not realized what they had? They're covered in paint and cut up! The new ones from Stewart are also in the pic

Wow, what a rig. Very nice. I'm thinking that the platform is for older eras though? It looks like it was for sanding on top of the engine. The out riggers have hoses down low so I'm confused about that.
The detailing and even the lights look outstanding. Modern enough for me. I'm going to research more before I build mine. I may just pick a modern prototype to copy. The one at Selkirk looks too big! Maybe I could get a pic of it on the wall behind my engine shed. Joe

Joe.

A friend sent my this link today. Not sure what era you are looking for, but this one has good mass and because of its geometric shape could be quite buildable.

http://www.railpictures.net/vi...hp?id=185444&nseq=61

Dave

That rig reminds me of Lionel's version. Yeah, probably a bad example for you guys, but... I was wondering if that could be used as a base for this?
http://www.lionel.com/Products...ilLineID=&CatalogId=

Although I am not a strong Diesel person Model Power made me one[plastic]. It is a vertical tank/tower with black hose and nozzle hanging down. He sort of weathered it in browns and decaled it with Southern Railway's Herald on 3 sides of the tank. As I recall $65. I am happy with it.
Model Power does a lot of oil depot type stuff.

Dave your Overland Sanding Tower looks VERY NICE!!!

Joe
On that red fueling pipe,Is that wire,and if so what kind?
I have been using Plastruct TB tubing,and the small sizes for piping is a little tough to work with

The red rig is brass rod. I believe it is .072. That was the size available that day at the hobby shop.
I also ordered plastruct tubing and a bunch of elbows and fittings. It seemed easier to do in brass.

Just an idea but that looks like it could be made out of a metal hangar.

Joe that is top notch buddy....what is the black tubing by the nozzles??..Heat shrink?..I love what you have made there...I'm gonna be running steam but that sure is a great detail.

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Originally posted by CWEX:
Joe that is top notch buddy....what is the black tubing by the nozzles??..Heat shrink?..I love what you have made there...I'm gonna be running steam but that sure is a great detail.

I got my extra hose from Hobby Lobby in the jewelry dept. It's called Pony Bead Lacing. It's super flex, and it's cheap! $1.99 for 5 yards. Joe

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Originally posted by Enginear-Joe:
I got my extra hose from Hobby Lobby in the jewelry dept. It's called Pony Bead Lacing. It's super flex, and it's cheap! $1.99 for 5 yards. Joe

Ok excellent I have one very near to me, gonna have to pop in and get some I see a lot of good uses for that....Thank you.

JOE DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATED PICTURES OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE sANDING AND FUELING SYSTEMS? THANKS, Bill

For The "Hose" I have been using electrical wire,18,16,or whatever you want.For ends I just use plastruct tubes cut over them.

The hoses hanging on the little stands are just that

My current nozzles are just plastruc tubes over the wire with little scraps glued on the ends

 Woa, were did this come from????

Bill, I haven't touched the RR for a while now. When the weather got nice, I started looking outside (G scale). I have a lot of projects going in all directions. Now if I could just complete some.

 I may start over with new benchwork for a multi level layout. That diesel building needs a lot of detail work inside. Tougher, now that it's built.

Joe I am working on some thoughts for the fueling and Sanding facilities for my new Diesel Shop. I have my Transfer table set up directly in front of the area where my shop will be placed. I have an ABBA Shop right beside this new Diesel shop and a asile on the other side. So my Fueling and Sanding will be right in front of the shop. I am leaving 24" long area for the Fueling and Sanding. I was thinking that I could do shared facilites per pair of tracks. I have 12 stalls in the shop. So was looking for ideas on what others had done for their facilities. I saw the rig above that Milwakee road Dave has and thought that it looked pretty cool.

Joe when you get back to the Sanding and fueling facility keep me posted to your thoughts. Bill

Joe:

WRT the hose I buy rubber gas line for model airplanes and attach it to a Plastruct RV-4 relief valve to make a filler cap. The other end is inserted into TB-4 tubing - see the photos below.

 

 

 

 

 

 Thank you!

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