Has anyone received the new Legacy SD90MAC?

Received it but won't know how it is till Dec. 25th...

Jim

Lee Willis.

He had nothing but good things to say about it.

I think Roger Wasson had 2 of the UP SD 90 with Legacy for sale on here a couple of days ago. LOCOMOTION 

Basically the old tooling with scale fuel tank and same sound set, but the Indiana one looks good.

Some dealers were shipping them last week.

There are several new videos up on YouTube of the CP and NS versions.

We shipped all of the Indiana RR's already and they are sold out - seems like at all the distributors....

I have all of the NS and UP's still in stock..... 

Any pictures of these SD90MAC's?

MLAT posted:

Basically the old tooling with scale fuel tank and same sound set, but the Indiana one looks good.

To my ears, the sounds on these new Legacy units are definitely a step up from the TMCC versions from the early 2000's.

The thing that helps the Indiana units stand out from the pack is the SILVER treatment of the fuel tank and wheelsets.  Silver always tends to show the detail much better than the dull grey (UP units) or black trucks (CP and NS units).  In that regard, I wish the CP units (my livery of choice) would have had the silver fuel tank and wheelsets, but that's not prototypical for CP.

David

P.S.  Charlie Ro is still showing one of the two Indiana road-numbers as in-stock.

MrMuffin'sTrains posted:

We shipped all of the Indiana RR's already and they are sold out - seems like at all the distributors....

I have all of the NS and UP's still in stock..... 

That is what I would have expected, pressured MTH and when they made theirs those were the sold out units as well. Were these SD9043MAC's part of Lionel's "BTO" units?

Rocky Mountaineer posted:

MLAT posted:

Basically the old tooling with scale fuel tank and same sound set, but the Indiana one looks good.

To my ears, the sounds on these new Legacy units are definitely a step up from the TMCC versions from the early 2000's.

The thing that helps the Indiana units stand out from the pack is the SILVER treatment of the fuel tank and wheelsets.  Silver always tends to show the detail much better than the dull grey (UP units) or black trucks (CP and NS units).  In that regard, I wish the CP units (my livery of choice) would have had the silver fuel tank and wheelsets, but that's not prototypical for CP.

David

P.S.  Charlie Ro is still showing one of the two Indiana road-numbers as in-stock.

I checked out those SD90's yesterday.  Good looking and the scale fuel tank is a huge improvement although I'm questioning the roof design.   Maybe I'm wrong but should't the heavy hitting 6000hp SD90mac have angled edges not a straight roof line at the center like the older Lionel SD90 Centennial #2000?          I think the straight edge denotes its a rebuilt 4400HP unit...

Joe 

Picked my UP 8130 and CP 9116 this afternoon, but unfortunately won't be able to open them up until tomorrow. 

JC642 posted:

Rocky Mountaineer posted:

MLAT posted:

Basically the old tooling with scale fuel tank and same sound set, but the Indiana one looks good.

To my ears, the sounds on these new Legacy units are definitely a step up from the TMCC versions from the early 2000's.

The thing that helps the Indiana units stand out from the pack is the SILVER treatment of the fuel tank and wheelsets.  Silver always tends to show the detail much better than the dull grey (UP units) or black trucks (CP and NS units).  In that regard, I wish the CP units (my livery of choice) would have had the silver fuel tank and wheelsets, but that's not prototypical for CP.

David

P.S.  Charlie Ro is still showing one of the two Indiana road-numbers as in-stock.

I checked out those SD90's yesterday.  Good looking and the scale fuel tank is a huge improvement although I'm questioning the roof design.   Maybe I'm wrong but should't the heavy hitting 6000hp SD90mac have angled edges not a straight roof line at the center like the older Lionel SD90 Centennial #2000?          I think the straight edge denotes its a rebuilt 4400HP unit...

Joe 

The "straight edge" is correct for the 4300 HP SD90MAC or "SD9043MAC" as UP called them, therefore correct for these UP, Indiana RR, and NS units.  

Side note- the NS 90's weren't being painted black until being rebuilt into SD70ACU's, but supposedly they're going to repaint some before rebuilding- so the Lionel version would be correct if they do.

mlavender480 posted

The "straight edge" is correct for the 4300 HP SD90MAC or "SD9043MAC" as UP called them, therefore correct for these UP, Indiana RR, and NS units.  

Side note- the NS 90's weren't being painted black until being rebuilt into SD70ACU's, but supposedly they're going to repaint some before rebuilding- so the Lionel version would be correct if they do.

Assuming that is correct, the engine should have just one exhaust vent & sound more like a SD80 rather then the loud German made 6000hp rattling prime mover of a SD90 that arrived later. 

Joe

JC642 posted:

mlavender480 posted

The "straight edge" is correct for the 4300 HP SD90MAC or "SD9043MAC" as UP called them, therefore correct for these UP, Indiana RR, and NS units.  

Side note- the NS 90's weren't being painted black until being rebuilt into SD70ACU's, but supposedly they're going to repaint some before rebuilding- so the Lionel version would be correct if they do.

Assuming that is correct, the engine should have just one exhaust vent & sound more like a SD80 rather then the loud German made 6000hp rattling prime mover of a SD90 that arrived later. 

Joe

What does this model sound like?

I have seen a few of these going down our main lines in town here.  Now its sparked my interest in the Indiana version.  Really thinking about picking one up and painting the new NS numbers on it.  Its the Christmas season, right? 

mlavender480 posted:

... What does this model sound like?

Check out Lionel's website for a sampling of some of the Legacy Railsounds used on this model.  Doesn't have everything, but you can at least get a feel for the horn.

David

Rocky Mountaineer posted:

mlavender480 posted:

... What does this model sound like?

Check out Lionel's website for a sampling of some of the Legacy Railsounds used on this model.  Doesn't have everything, but you can at least get a feel for the horn.

David

I would have figured that the Lionel website would have included the prime mover running/starting sound files. The guy I know that received his UP version raved about them.

Or, did I miss it?

Anyway, I think it's neat that the manufacturers sometimes produce engines from the small railroads. Kato also offered an Indiana Railroad SD90, in HO and N. In addition to this handsome San Luis and Rio Grande version ......

Here's a video:

I just ordered the CP SD 90 this morning.  Looking forward to its arrival next week.   Merry Christmas to all.   LOCOMOTION 

yankspride4 posted:

Here's a video:

Sounds great and it correctly matches the body design of a rebuilt SD90mac43 engine.   I'm surprised Lionel didn't reuse their tooling and the sound file for an actual 6000hp SD90mac...

joe 

yankspride4 posted:

Here's a video: .....

Wow .... really nice! Looks ..... runs ..... sounds ....

I received two CPs on pre-order and I am extremely disappointed in the terrible, broken sounding, quacking heavy distortion horn. The quilling feature is useless as you just touch it and get heavy distortion right away. Not even close to a real SD90mac or any real locomotive that I have ever heard. It is supposed to be a 3 or 5 note chord/chime that you can gradually quill before getting distortion on full blast. Instead of trying to do it right Lionel just repeated the awful one used on the SD80mac. 

Other than the horn the locos are great and did fill my need for two long awaited Canadian Pacific power. I just will have to run a third locomotive that has a decent horn with them. 

Greenline posted:

I received two CPs on pre-order and I am extremely disappointed in the terrible, broken sounding, quacking heavy distortion horn. The quilling feature is useless as you just touch it and get heavy distortion right away. Not even close to a real SD90mac or any real locomotive that I have ever heard. It is supposed to be a 3 or 5 note chord/chime that you can gradually quill before getting distortion on full blast. Instead of trying to do it right Lionel just repeated the awful one used on the SD80mac. 

Other than the horn the locos are great and did fill my need for two long awaited Canadian Pacific power. I just will have to run a third locomotive that has a decent horn with them. 

What I have been saying for a long time now.  It's time for Lionel to upgrade their sound files because the horns on some of the diesels are absolutely horrible.