Has Lionel ReIssued 714-717 cars?

Carl, 

The cars are 51501 Baltimore and Ohio hopper, 51402 Chesapeake and Ohio stock car, 51300 Shell tank car, and 51701 New York Central caboose.

Hope this helps,

Derek

Carl,

Don't forget about 51401 - Pennsy boxcar and 51301 Lackawanna reefer. It should be noted that the Chesapeake stock car and Lackawanna reefer were additions to the original 4-car reissue.

I made a fairly significant investment in all the cars. Years later, I'm really glad I own them, even with the newer, more detailed rolling stock avaialble.

not sure if either of the previous posts were in regards to reissues or the originals.

And I don't know if they were ever offered again by Lionel. But I do know Williams made some very nice copies of these back int he 90's.

Tim

As posted Lionel made a set as did Williams. The Williams are brass with a glossier finish but decent repros. MTH also made 4 car set in their Railking line. The cars are all diecast. The caboose, hopper, and boxcar are decent copies. The tank car was issued with a walkway and railing around the dome like a chemical tank car. K-Line made a B&O hopper. Not sure about the other three cars.

One other point, Lionel's reissue was called semi scale. I assume because of the non scale couplers so technically they are not the 714-717. For some reason the caboose was issued with the trucks located in the same location as the semi scale 2957 caboose rather than the correct location on the 717. MTH and Williams chose to mimic Lionel's lead and installed their trucks in the wrong location as well.

Pete

As far as I know, the cars were only offered once. In addition to the six cars mentioned above, there was also a second caboose.

The second caboose commands the highest price, followed by the two newly designed cars: the Lackawanna reefer and C&O stock.

Of the four original cars, I'd put the order (high to low) as: tank, caboose, boxcar, hopper.

The cars have knuckle couplers.

The second caboose is a 51702, here is one on Ebay.

I'd think the two bakelite boxcars in that set would be more desirable then the tank car since Lionel ran a string of those diecast tank cars a few years after.

Could be wrong but I think they are still the only Bakelite boxcars produced since the originals in 1938.

Joe

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I'd think the two bakelite boxcars in that set would be more desirable then the tank car since Lionel ran a string of those diecast tank cars a few years after.

Could be wrong but I think they are still the only Bakelite boxcars produced since the originals in 1938.

My ranking was based on the prices realized on EBay when I was watching those cars a few years ago.

Thanks, All, for the great information with numbers and some background.  Got too busy over the past 20 or so hours and didn't have a chance to revisit until just now.