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Option 1, set the switch to Program and just set the number you want. "I think" it is Eng, #, Set.

Option 2, it is possible that the previous owner never set it. In that case it is one.

Option 3, it could be the first two or last two digits of the cab#. For example a  N&W 1218, I'd try 12 or 18.

Option 4, if it is a three digit cab# I'd try the first or last two digits. Example a N&W 611, I'd try 61 or 11

Best of luck.

Mike ,it should not be a problem ,set the switch on the loco to program ,then put the loco back on the track ,power up then press engine ,then enter any number up to i think 99 ,then shut the power ,remove engine from track ,put switch back to run & you should be ok ,Hope this helps .

After you enter the engine number, don't forget to press the SET key.

Thanks guy, so after I re-number it I’ll be able to reset it, or will it reset automatically since it will be re named.

Thanks

TMCC engines only remember the last number programmed into it.  Railsounds is not affected. If you are considering a repaint job or a  renumbering, crew talk will still have the original dialog. For Example,  if you have loco ATSF 123 with TMCC number 23, and you renumbered it to ATSF 456, TMCC number 56, the crew talk will still say "ATSF 123"

What's the exact engine you have, the Lionel product number would be useful.  There is a configuration parameter for TMCC other than the TMCC ID that you may want to set as well.

Lionel 6-38003 Blue Comet #831 The original owner said he never used it in command mode. The technician at Lionel told me to reset the engine the reasoning for that is because it seems to be locked in forward motion only. And all of the instructions that I have seen to reset the engine is to enter the engines address but I don’t know that that’s why I started asking questions.

Michael - GRJ is correct as there is a process to "Restore TMCC Functions" (sound, lights, motion, smoke operation) in case - in the course of normal operation - static electricity or an electrical 'spike' may have caused a loss of function.  The procedure for this is as follows...

1. Move switch on loco from Run to Program

2. Turn on Command Base

3. Place locomotive on track, then turn on power to track

4. Press 'Eng' then input locomotive ID#. (Note: Whatever number you've reset it to)  and then Press 'Set'.

5. Press 'Eng' then then input loco ID# again.

6. Press 'AUX 1', then input the reprogramming code number that corresponds to your locomotive.  (Note: This number can be determined by contacting Lionel)

7. Turn off power to track, wait 10 seconds.

8. Remove loco from track, move switch from Program to Run.

9. Place loco back on track.  Turn power on to track.

10. Press 'Eng' and ID#, then operate as normal.

PS - As GRJ says, the item number of your engine would be really helpful.

GOOD LUCK!

Lionel 6-38003

Thanks

Michael - Based on the item number you've provided and the fact that your loco is Legacy equipped I 'think' the Lionel reprogramming code for this engine is '1'. Consequently punch that number in when you get to Step 6.

Good Luck!

Actually, this is a later Legacy locomotive with the RCMC board, so there is no second step.  Just setting the ID is all you need to do to reset all the functions.

It's only the early Legacy with the modular board set that requires you to set an engine type.  In that case, it's pretty generic, AUX1:1 for most steam and AUX1:2 for most diesels.

BTW, this is why we continually ask for the product # when questions are asked.  We're up to almost a dozen posts and finally we have the answer.  We could have had it on the first reply had the product # been supplied with the initial query!

Michael bee - One final comment and perhaps for future reference.

In a case where someone has bought a locomotive second hand and doesn't have the Owner's Manual for the engine, knowing the item product number enables one to call up lionelsupport.com and - under the 'Resources' heading at the top - scroll down to 'Owner's Manuals' and then punch in the product item number in the space provided and the applicable Manual pops up.

After following the above procedure in this particular case the manual for the 6-38003 Blue Comet Scale 4-6-2 #831 popped up on screen.  Furthermore page 15 outlines a 9 Step Procedure entitled "Reprogramming R21R circuit boards to restore features."

For what ever reason the number given comes up as a Legacy loco with a different sku# when doing a quick search.  Using the provided number does indeed show it to be a TMCC locomotive so I would applaud PH1975 for paying attention to what actually comes up in a search and finding the correct manual.  From page 15 of the referenced correct manual...

TrainMaster Command operations 15 Reprogramming R2IR circuit boards to restore features

STEP 1: Move switch on locomotive from RUN to PROGRAM.

STEP 2: Plug-in Command Base.

STEP 3: Place locomotive on track, then turn on power to track.

STEP 4: Press “ENG” then input locomotive’s ID#. Press “SET”.

STEP 5: Press “ENG,” then the ID#, “AUX1”, then press the number 74.

STEP 6: Turn off power to track and wait ten seconds.

STEP 7: Remove locomotive from track, move switch from PROGRAM to RUN.

STEP 8: Place locomotive back on track, turn power on to track. STEP 9: Press “ENG” and ID#, then operate as normal.

@Gilly@N&W posted:

Option 1, set the switch to Program and just set the number you want. "I think" it is Eng, #, Set.

Option 2, it is possible that the previous owner never set it. In that case it is one.

Option 3, it could be the first two or last two digits of the cab#. For example a  N&W 1218, I'd try 12 or 18.

Option 4, if it is a three digit cab# I'd try the first or last two digits. Example a N&W 611, I'd try 61 or 11

Best of luck.

You forgot option 5: try every number from 1-99. Don't ask me if I tried this.

Sorry about that, I believe the link and didn't even think to check if Google took me to the right page!

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

Sorry about that, I believe the link and didn't even think to check if Google took me to the right page!

At first I did the same.  Then when PH1975 posted I double checked myself and saw the wrong SKU#.  It's good that so many are willing to help.  It keeps us all honest.  LOL!

Sorry I got a little confused here , so are the instructions MartyE provided the way for me to reprogram the right way.

Thanks in advance

Mike

@Michael bee posted:

Sorry I got a little confused here , so are the instructions MartyE provided the way for me to reprogram the right way.

Thanks in advance

Mike

If you are just changing the ID you can just skip over step 5 and follow through step 8.  If you are trying to restore loss of functionality then do all of it.

Thank you so much for everyone who is helping me with this. With all the local train shows shut down or canceled in the state of New Jersey I have to still get my train fix somehow So picking up a couple items on eBay has worked out pretty well for me up till this point. But thank you again I’ll follow the instructions and hopefully will get this engine running in both directions on command thank you again

Michael - You're quite welcome and, if nothing else, you've probably learned the 'Golden Rule' of this Forum.  Whenever someone Posts - Always (if at all possible) include the product number! (lol)  Seriously though, inevitably it saves time - for everyone.

As far as the process for restoring functionality is concerned, if you compare the 10 step procedure I listed (which Lionel set out when TMCC was in its infancy) to Marty's 9 steps they're really very similar; the difference being as Legacy and other advances came along Lionel just simplified the process a little bit.  That's all.

Got ya thanks.. and for future reference A product number. I just drilled that into my head this afternoon thank you again

Well I was able to reset and re-ID the engine using the legacy remote and it did restore all the features I then disconnected the legacy system to run the engine in conventional mode and it properly went through its motion using the CW 80 with no issues. I really just must’ve been overthinking the whole ID thing a much more familiar running DCS then tmcc or legacy.

Thank you guys again