You're looking at the interior of a pre-war Blue Comet passenger car, 613 Pullman. The round thing will surely cause any arriving or departing passengers to trip and break their little necks, but more to the point... How do I safely remove these retaining clips without going all "green Hulk" on 'em!?!? And what are they called?
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Looking at your picture, lift the little loop part on the bottom of the picture and slide it over the stud.
RoyBoy posted:Looking at your picture, lift the little loop part on the bottom of the picture and slide it over the stud.
I did that but stopped short as it didn't seem to want to move. I guess old age may be a factor … I'll pry harder!
Does this type of clip have a name (Tinnerman, "C", "E", etc.)?????
What is that clip holding?
it looks like a 600-4 retaining clip. The truck clip looks like a horseshoe that gets squeezed.
It looks to be holding a truck on. The tab stop to the left is curious, maybe coupler shaft articulation?
It looks like its holding the truck to me too. I have run across that style clip in prewar Lionel trains. I have no doubt about them being factory.
I have seen these before, push the washer towards the crimp and lift up crimp end then push back over the stud. The hole of the washer is oval and the crimp locks it in place.
Correct on all counts!
Moonman: It is indeed a 600-4 retaining clip as seen in this drawing. Correction, it is a "retaining washer."
Adriatic: the tab stop to the left is indeed just what you said, part of the coupler shaft articulation as shown here. Something I have never seen before - pretty interesting!
I did finally remove the clip - the reason for my concern is that in the past I have scratched the paint when tools slip, and I truly did not want that to happen on this old 613 Pullman. I'm happy to say that that I succeeded, and no harm was done to the patient. As it turns out, there's a second clip like this one on the underside - it's part of the articulating mechanism. I quit while I was ahead. I was only trying to gain better access for gentle cleaning, and although it would have been easier and more thorough with the trucks removed, I did not wish to add my own "play wear" to this fine car.
Thanks for the responses!
George I normally pop them off with a flat head screw driver and replace them with a horseshoe clamp/C-Clamp
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